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Dec 18th, 2006 at 2:22am
 
chuckles here. I changed my pic. this is my birthday pic from yesterday. I look satisfied because the curry was good.  I was reminded today of an obe I had where I saw Bruce.
this occurred before any of us put our pictures up.

btw, I invite folks to let me see your face! I'm sure you are all gorgeous creatures!

ok back to the obe.  Bruce and I had been with a group, probably this forum. He looks for people to come here within his phasing. I do too sometimes.

but I was with him this occassion before the pictures came of some of us and even before Bruce put his up.  we were walking into a restaurant setting. as we walked we talked. he was saying "don't u want to work with children in your physical life right now?"

I said no, they get on my nerves when they scream too loud.  (tell u what this means later)  we slid into a booth facing each other.
I knew we had left the group forum because he wanted me to remember what he was going to say. we don't usually remember being out there unless a special effort is made.

he stopped talking and he made a clay mask go over his face, the kind women wear, like a mud mask to make themselves beautiful. as I gazed he began to peel if off in chunks and lay the pieces on the table one by one.  As he finished I looked to see if he looked different to me..he looked just a few years older now. he still didn't talk. he looked at me very seriously and pointed a finger at me and said, "now, your turn."
then joking around, I said to him, you still look like Clint Eastwood to me!

he kind of gave me a deadpan look which didn't bother me at all and the scene faded out.  before this obe, I had been thinking I don't want to put up a picture of myself because it doesn't really matter to me and I didn't particularly like my own face, yada, yada. but after this obe it suddenly seemed a grand idea and about the same time that I decided to go ahead and put one up, I came here and was so surprised Bruce had his photo up! and the photo was the same face in the obe encounter and still looked like Clint Eastwood to me! lol.

I pondered on the mask symbol a long time, the meaning. and then decided putting up a photo is a lot like taking off our mask and showing the world what we look like underneath our self images, where sometimes like I was, I was not comfortable at all with doing it. but its nearly 2007 and this new picture was just taken yesterday on my birthday, the old one is from 2002 or 2003. so just thought I'd share this with you all, and I was hoping that those of you who are sticking around, I was hoping to see your faces one day. thank you and I'll still love you even if I can't see your face.

hugs, alysia

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Re: Obe where I saw Bruce
Reply #1 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 3:47am
 
Hi Alysia and happy birthday!! I decided to take the mask off too, for now.This picture of mine I took it one year ago. I will post a recent photo one of this days.
Love and gratitude.
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Reply #2 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 9:06am
 
Cheesy   Happy birthday to you!  Cheesy
    Happy Birthday, Dear Alysia!
   Wink   Happy birthday to you!  Wink

                Love, bets

Bruce has been on my mind too. Let's PM him some greetings!
Or OoB visit him in CO!  That would be quite a parade!
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Reply #3 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 12:32pm
 
Alysia; name-dropping by any chance (smacked-botty to you)?

Your mention of children appears to reveal some unresolved emotional conflict in your life to which you might possibly desire help but are hesitant at seeking it. It is almost as if you are afraid to expose your inner-feelings indicating a sensitivity in your personality (not really a bad thing).

(Thinking [as an aside]: why would the wearing of mud-masks make women more beautiful)?

I wonder if the episode of Bruce and the mask has another interpretation to that which you align it such as the search for meaning in your life where you might be placing him on the pedestal of being the Guru. It seems that he might be 'placing the ball in your court' and saying something like, "Now you learn from your own experience" such as like walking along the road to Damascus. Your comment about who he looks like is your insistance that he is the Guru, a kind of false image to which he may be trying to struggle free.

Your admittance to not liking your looks may be reflecting a degree of ineffectualness or inadequacy in your normal feelings but especially when socially interacting. The problem that sometimes arises with feelings like this are they may become self-actualising prophesies which can be detected from your overt behaviour. The one person, as we all know, whom we cannot escape or hide from is ourselves. What we all need on a daily basis to prop-up our sagging image is about 12 hugs!

If some are insisting on seeing the mug-shots of other participants then 'guide me, great Jehova, guide me' because I cannot see how it can be done direct from this Web site but I may be missing some moot point.
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Re: Obe where I saw Bruce
Reply #4 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 2:35pm
 
hmmm Jennings, I guess I won't be seeing your mug anytime too soon. fine. it was just a simple request. you got something to hide? and aren't we ALL hiding something?

like I said, I don't care either way and I don't run this board and nobody owes me nothing. it was my desire to know you all better beyond my fallacious perceptions. and I pick up information through a picture that I didn't have before.
don't worry, I'll get a life outside of this board soon! Smiley

thanks for the psychological analysis. I see I have your attention. if you don't know what a mud mask is you don't know what a woman is and her need, even divine right to be as beautiful as she feels inside on the outside too.
interesting, you focus on such a detail as the mask symbol instead of the higher thought of what the mask taking off really means. free yourself..you are an amazing man to my perception.

Yes I used to put Bruce on a pedestal because he helped me a lot in ways too numerous to explain here, through his visions, his books and his occassional input to me personally was always just what I needed to hear and/or study. Since meeting Bruce there has been a few others here who were instrumental in my spiritual growth and my admiration extends to them to the same degree it extends to Bruce. I will always be in deep gratitude for the opportunity to grow here. I sense it will end soon, my participation here and so I am sad. but also very happy for what has been gained.

my obe report above was an attempt to explain one of those ways he acted to open me up to not being afraid to put a picture up where I was wishing to communicate and a picture is communication also.
I finally realized late in life the physical body of which I might add my face is included, is an expressive tool and we should never put ourselves down for the way we look. we should not judge ourselves or be afraid of being judged by others. it really is none of our business what others think of us if it is merely a judgment on their part and not coming direct from the lips of god.

the overcoming of fear, shyness, is what I feel we live our lives to do, and this is a daily affair for most of us as either fear or love rules our inner lives.  My pov. but I believe if any of you start observing your daily thoughts and feelings, you will notice you are ruled by a thought of fear, of insecurity, or you are choosing a positive thought.

I personally must choose constantly which thought to have in my house. so far, its working good. 

I would like to promote obes as a way to spiritually grow. but obes are not necessary for that. watching your daily thoughts and what you project to others is a much better way to grow spiritually into your unlimited being than obes, and these will tend to come naturally anyway, if you attend to the now moment  which to my perception, the now moment is all there is. it just doesn't get any better than what it is right now.

Bruce is the first person to tell you he's an ordinary man. I can't help it if I like ordinary people who do extraordinary things like writing books from which I gained.
and furthermore he still looks like a movie star to me Smiley  but if you get to know people, everybody starts to shine like a movie star,

we all have this gift inside we give and that makes us shine. its just a great time to be alive right now.

hey MZ, this lass won't even give me her name!!! lol, I loved your pic. I like your long hair! I used to have long hair like that. I see u have one of those cell phone cameras like me daughters...thank you so much for letting me look at you! I do get a kick out of photos, hope to hear more from you.   
ok gotta go and remember this: don't sweat the small stuff. life doesn't have to be all face to the grindstone...and all work and no play is a bummer.



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Reply #5 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 4:16pm
 
Alysia, interesting; you appear to have taken offence when no offence was intended; I wonder why? Where are those Christian ethics of forgiveness, love, and 'turning the other cheek' which I read about; have they been momentarily abandoned in favour of revenge?
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Reply #6 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 7:19pm
 
Well Jennings I doubt Alysia was offended by your comments but I found the tone of your post offensive. Why do you think anyone else would be interested in your psychoanalysis?
I'm not a Christian so I don't have to worry about christian ethics. Are you really new here? What is your real name?
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Reply #7 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 7:22pm
 
Hey Alysia this is me:

Tongue

No wait it needs an ice cream cone in front of it!

Grin

You got my hair right before, but the rest is more difficult to describe.
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Reply #8 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 8:18pm
 
That's a revealing reaction Lucy. I wonder why my postings offended you; would you care to elaborate a little more about your feelings and why you are closing ranks with Alysia who understandably feels that I wounded her which, of course, was unintentional?

My name is Derek Jennings Ware; what's yours?
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Reply #9 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 8:59pm
 
Greetings Jennings,

Have you read about how this board is organized, including the  peer moderating system? We rarely need to use it, maybe because in part we know the parameters, but also because we care about each other and try to help each other get the most out of our discussions.  Sort of like I'm attempting to do for you now.  Smiley

For example, your last post to Lucy is way off topic and should be handled as a personal message or if pertinent to 'afterlife knowledge,' then reposted as a new thread.

Sincerely,
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Reply #10 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 9:11pm
 
Well frankly I was a little offended too.  It is inappropriate to analyze someone the way you did, being that... 1. She did not ask for any type of psycoanalysis and probably did not want or need one. and 2. You do not know a thing about her so it is very possible that not one thing you commented on is accurate.  Basically just rude.  

You can try to say I'm only offended because of some negative emotional condiction that I have, conflicts with my family, or insecurity with my looks, as you have implied with Lucy. however I would just like to inform you that I have excelent, loving relationships with all of my family members, Im in a great place in my life, and Ive been offered on several occasions to model for various photographers. So Im sorry, your theory does not apply.  The fact is that your response was inapropriate and unwelcomed.  

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Reply #11 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 9:38pm
 
Chill OOB dude,

(As they say in your vernacular).

Jennings is new here.  He is still getting his bearings.  He means no offense.  Sometimes we offer advice, interpretations and it is taken one way or another.  I can see that Jennings was just offering advice in a spontaneous manner, without offence intended. 

No harm, no foul.

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Reply #12 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 9:46pm
 
It looks as if my coments have animated some on the forum who are lining-up like wounded soldiers to wage war! To help clarify matters, I did not anlayse Alysia's motivations although it may have seemed like that. What did occur was an interpretaion of her dreamscape and the information came from what she imparted and not from myself. If anyone is unable to recognise this then they are not in the position to dispute it! No one needs to apologise for their feelings so why is this happening and why should I have to explain myself? I too have read the forum's constitution that encourages peer moderating but not peer-group moderating which provides the same discretional input from all members, including yourselves. Welcome to the world of democracy and egalitarianism, that is, to those who can see beyond their own inner urges otherwise, fascism rules. Surely no one is so fatuous or puerile to pull-rank on the basis of seniority of time as a member?

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars but in ourselves that we are underlings".

(Shakespeare)

PS Thanks Doc! Someone with perception; welcome to my world!
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Reply #13 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 10:33pm
 
All I am saying is that if I posted an Out of body experience that I had, and someone who knows nothing about me begins analysing it saying that I saw this because I have screwed up emotions and i saw that because I have problems socially interacting and that Im afraid to confront my inner feelings, I would say go take a hike.  You obvviously did not consider anyones feelings, especially by posting this analysis for the world to see.  You could have at least relayed your theories in a way that was not so matter-of-fact like, and with more sensativity.  Then to add a sarcastic remark criticising someone for wanting to make relationships of the board members a little more personal... Wheres the love?
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Reply #14 - Dec 18th, 2006 at 11:07pm
 
Hi Alysia, of course I noticed your new picture, was a sort of "oops, hey!" moment. Looks like you're ready for having a latte with someone.

Picture or not- there are pros and cons, so one can spend some time pondering it or flip a coin. For example, when no picture, you could use it as verification if you think you have seen someone nonphysically, then exchange pictures after it (like you told Alysia). But portrait pictures of course are interesting. I like to see them also. Then, on the other hand, they may give an impression which could overlay and distort the posts, but then again on the other hand, it could give an impression which is somehow fitting and therefore good for understanding; or a picture could be an ID and/or trigger to meet someone in mind, or would it lead to just meeting a picture? Well, I don't know nothing for certain.

I think there is no good general rule of what is to hide and what not. If we have to put on a mud mask or not. If we're beautiful or not. Not everyone looks straight into the heart, so the look is important too as life has told me so far. Just as long as we not confuse the what-really-matters with the matters of just being smart due to some "truths" of everyday's life.

However, nice picture Alysia, to me anyway, and nice meeting you told of, and happy birthday from me too!

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