Greetings  ,

For several weeks I haven't been taken by my spiritual guides to do a retrieval, and have been troubled that I might no longer be useful.  And here on local C1, road construction  makes it necessary for me to drive past a large old cemetery several times a week, where I usually end up with spiritual hitch-hikers, get annoyed and fearful that they'll make me crash the car, and tell them to get out.
---But I hadn't put these factors together until recently.

What I want to report is that these lost spirits, even those with annoying habits, they really do want to get to a better place. And they'll happily go to the A~L in groups, with not much ritual. Out of about 20 in the last week, only 2 required any counselling regarding them being good enough to go and to not fear punishment.
I encourage them to bring a friend and so deal with 2--4 at a time. I tell them it's better and far more interesting than here, that loving souls await them--probably someone they'll remember, and they'll have more choices there than fluffy white clouds with harps floating by.   It's treated as an obvious choice in their development and an opportunity that they don't want to miss-- again.

They can choose to wait a moment for a spiritual guide to take them, move up the Lightbeam on their own, or get quickly shipped thru their third eye.  Most prefer to experience the trip up the Lightbeam, (Thanks, Mair!) with or without guides.  We start with whatever method the majority in that group want, and sometimes that choice whisks them all.

They usually get abit subdued by being directly spoken to, and I've been abit nervous and sort of hustled them through for fear I'd forget something. Sort of like my first year teaching when high school freshmen would act up and needed to get settled abit. I did remember to ask several when they'd lost their bodies; those asked ranged from 1892 to 1998.
The one from 1892 was a Tom Jennings who I later looked up on genealogy websites GenForum and FamilySearch. Such a person was born in this state on a date that would make him in his 50's if he's the one who died in 1892, but no info on those sites or from Tom on where he was buried, or nothing from him on how much he recalls travelling/moving about since his earthdeath. Do they range very far from where their bodies are buried?
* Bing! Also his family's surname was in this city in the late 1800's according to another researcher.Still circumstantial but getting closer. Guess I'd better go visit some tombstones.

Now that I've had a chance to pull my thoughts together on this, I'll try to get more information from future 'ghosts' for later verification. What town they were buried in would help. Do you have other information that you ask for? How long could we 'interview' them before they might lose interest and fade out?  

Guess I mentionned this on an earlier one, but oh my!  that sweet bourbon and sweet 'tobacky', before all the modern additives, certainly smells good! I may put out a call to give those folks priority!  

I still believe that Bruce's way as taught in his books is the best and it gave me the confidence to continue. This recent approach of mine has been more like the cut-rate airlines. I also hope to send some first class, a la Moen!  

Betson

 

hi Betsi. that sounds like good enough verification. there does come a day when you graduate from doing retrievals to a different level as the newer, fresher students on these levels take over for you and you don't have to worry if the space between retrievals gets wider and wider. just say you are available and willing to your guides, they won't forget your special talents.  the phrase "go to the light" usually causes spirits to go to it as you are the bridge they needed. u told them they were real by recognizing them as worthy of entering your private space. your head after all is a private place. you don't have to recognize them, so it must be something in you like compassion. well, we knew this. 

your retrievals remind me of a dream retrieval awhile back. there was 4 people in coffins. just laying there and I knew what they were thinking. or dreaming. that they were on vacation. vacationing in coffins?   there was a caretaker there watching and waiting for them to awaken. I asked the caretaker why haven't you woken these others up? Don't you know the shift in consciousness is happening on Earth and we need these to wake up now? we need their help! and with that I told him I couldn't waste time, I had a destination, something important to do and so I rousted them out of their coffins and told them this was no vacation spot, we needed them right away back on Earth to be helpers. I still recall one lady slinging her leg over the coffin side all sleepily   man, did they ever have a major case of the grogs! then I told the caretaker make sure they got to a higher level as I had to go. it was funny anyway.

theres been so many times I had to leave the scene to go fetch a helper, its almost routine for me to encounter someone and fly away for a helper..they always come disquised but I recognize them right away, they usually spend a little time straigtening out my thinking before they take the retrievee to the light for which I'm thankful. well, thank u for your post! love, alysia

I think you already are compassionate otherwise I doubt these nonphysicals would even be attracted to your aura. I often think of retrievers as simply portals. the thing about interacting out there is we will express our personality on the one hand and my problem is a bit of impatience, thank god I learned about having a sense of humour whether here or there. it leavens the situation to provide nonjudgment of a fellow human being so that PUL can pull them to the light through the portal.

I'm not particularly religious but I always have this image of Jesus trucking down the dirt road, a crowd of people watching this master walk by as he had a secret. this one story must be true, otherwise I don't know why the image would stay with me for years and years making me think on it. I see the lady touch his garment, she's on the ground when she does this..she's sure he wouldn't pay attention to the likes of her and she's quite diseased, seriously in need of retrieval. she touches his garment, he's wearing some sort of brown or white robe. the crowd presses her, she falls from the jostling of them, somehow she stretches out her hand and grabs hold of the end of his robe and is instantly healed by the holy spirit. J turns and says something to the effect that her faith has made her whole as he felt "virtue" (the light?) flow thru him. he told her whatever you've been doing, don't do it anymore and you'll be just fine. not those words, but close enough.
I think of J as a portal, this woman came thru him and was redeemed or retrieved to a higher level of awareness. thats how I see the human being can be a portal for light and these in the astral u are aware of them and so they are aware of you, that they can go thru your open mind to the light.
because you are willing. you should give yourself some credit that you can do this by allowing it. I don't pretend to have all the answers and that is probably why I have to go find a guide when I encounter a retrieval that stumps me.
interestingly theres a blinking out period right after I make the intention to find the guide, then the scene slowly fades back in when the guide shows, then the guide leaves with the retrievee and another brief blinking out can occur before the guide returns to brush me up on my methods of retrieval.
sometimes I have to eat crow too Bets, but I'm always learning and the flavor of eating crow is not too bad! ha ha!

love to you, always interesting to chat with other retrievers!

Shirl! I'm so glad u mentioned that   its part of the premise of my book regarding self retrievals to be looked at as real, breathing entities existing in a different time frame of the movie of life. self retrievals like you and I and others do here have always been around but are coming to be recognized as genuinely important during the shift in consciousness for all of those in the front of this movement.
I'm like one of your mad scientists in the laboratory of the mind to try and express the huge rewards of self retrieval and how it helps to make you a better retriever of both the physical and nonphysical areas.

now to your question about retrieving the living. we are up to that point if you are living on Earth, we do it anyway when we come in and harmonize a situation or leaven some area with our energy. most often in my experiences it happens first in the imagination and the physical areas follow suit, by holding fast to the visions held in the imagination, a type of belief, or faith, or will, or acceptance that it will be so.

it was shortly after practicing retrievals of NP's (no physical body peoples) that I began to retrieve those still in body, because it didn't matter whether they had a physical body or not, the two worlds are closely aligned with all of "us."
most of us just don't focus into this other dimension, our eyes are on other tasks.

Retrieving these others who were physical was a matter of meeting their astral bodies which hold their belief systems intact. I invariably had a relationship with them in the physical and it was my business to get to the truth. I usually had an emotional issue and was trying to harmonize something.
I couldn't figure out why these people were being retrieved as they were still alive and I thought retrieving was about dead folks who just didn't get it, that they were dead! yet retrievals, whether of self, or of others was much more than a wake up call it was turning out.
Retrievals are a re-writing of the script. turned out people whom I had problems with were creating me as to who they thought I was, and I was creating them as to who I thought they were, and to get to the truth one of us had to make the first move, and since I was into the study of retrievals it would fall on me to make the first move and the scenes enacted themselves first in the astral (running for a helper) who would do the actual retrieving, come back and give me a few pointers and how I had created such and such to be, and how not to make the same mistake.

by doing these retrievals the guides told me I built something like a fruit of the soul. compassion, tolerance, empathy, patience, I was supposed to retrieve this way, but at first I was a little saucy, telling my victims of retrieval flat out they were dead!
I had a lot to learn about being dead!

its just neat the helpers can be located in the blink of an eye..they must be keeping an eye on the movie and what we are up to here...if only more of us could become aware we do have help to harmonize whats in front of us....also theres so many of them working the astral...

love, alysia

it is a pretty big shock to discover you're dead.   I mean, I'm smiling because its such a far fetched idea for most of us. we have had two people besides you bring up this question here in 6 years, so u can see its not something pleasant to think of I suppose.

we only believe basically what it is we would like to believe. being dead is not an acceptable idea. although I believe we go through deaths whenever we experience a truama, or the death of a loved one. a piece of us goes with them. but with self retrievals we go after the pieces of ourselves and regain new life that way.

how did you feel after retrieving a part of yourself Shirley? more energized? more at peace? satisfied? or did you feel like crowing like I did?

I love the research you did Bets..newbies appreciate it as it ties the two worlds together for them if they don't do retrievals themselves or know what they are exactly.
I once did a similar research!  kinda shocked myself but I had been so conscious, fully conscious while the body slept on that particular retrieval that the research part of it was just for fun. Briefly   its really hard for me to be brief, but I'm working on it! I asked guides what town I was in. I was given what I brought back as Langsford SD. I looked on a map the next morn for SD towns. A Langford showed up and I accepted I had added an "S" to the town as out there, interpretation can go awry so easily, especially when you are just beginning to find your wings so to speak.
I'm feeling really close to you these days Betsi, but I always did from the start. I still don't understand how u say I showed you something?  its just that I'm the one who was often clumsy, or as you say, its was in the beginning, no knowledge what a gentle approach should look like when retrieving, or compassion to show. but u figure we got to give ourselves more credit, the fact we are even doing this work, the motivation itself must be compassion, because we don't get paid for it unless we get satisfaction from helping. theres little satisfaction unless we get the heart chakra active, and when I first started this retrieval stuff my heart was not that open, I just wanted to learn how, so I wasn't judging you as I once got chased out of a retrieval scene for being too harsh, lol, the guides said get out, you're not helping!  see, no way am I gonna tell u my failures! haha! probably thats the most interesting is the failures though. all right. if u insist   yes, I think the mental has to be balanced with the heart area and it takes awhile and you are doing great! so am I! simply because its so hard to communicate these areas out in the collective where all the spirits hang, I like the way you describe the humor which is there; if not for humor, I would not want to go into some of these areas at all.
well, there was this drug addict who died. I thought I'd retrieve him. he already had a full house of helpers around him, they were nonphysical helpers and physical helpers can get thru faster..something about our vibrations...so along comes alysia to the rescue barging in like gangbusters..now I know where this guy was..it was not focus 23, it was 22. as he was very confused and semi conscious and totally unaware he was dead, I mean he lost his body. I did get his attention but I started haranging on him about "the drug pathway" and I was too mean. that was before I started considering PUL was part of the retrieval act. the helpers in the room had to undue the damage I had done and told me go home and think my approach over better

so I didn't even know what I was showing you until u told me. later, I considered well, I'm in training, still am, so the first thing to do is forgive yourself, then its really easy to forgive the drug addict for killing himself..he hadn't known what he was doing and didn't need to be told off. I hardly think your irritation at having them crowd your space is as bad as my little perfomance.   hope that clarifys that I didn't mean to hurt you but am always coming from my past experiences, and sort of doing a comparison with you. please continue to post any retrievals that you feel are appropriate for all our learning as if we don't talk about it, nobody will know what they are exactly except for those who have been doing it for awhile.

a friend of mine and a retriever also told me something about us retriever types; it really hit home in my gut...he said we are a little too focused on the spiritual side of life and this can tend to make us  self deprecating people. omygod. thats also the first time I ever in my life used that word self deprecating! I had to go look in the dictionary and then spirit had to give me the spelling! don't u love it!

so I think I saw a resonant soul in you Bets, the likeness of myself acting out in these areas...we are to love ourselves nonetheless.
oh god I gotta get off the puter   I think the chair is growing to my seat after 6 years...    thanks for being here for me! and for all of us.