Could be some of that, B-man, and I suspect, also, a healthy fear of no more chinese take-out. No more pizza and hamburgers either. No more blissful sleep at the end of a long day, no sleep at all for the dead?

But, of course, that's not what the afterlife is all about, is it?  Perhaps when we're there we'll finally have all the "time" we want for simple pleasures, like listening to our own thoughts. Sounds good to me.

love, blink

Hi Chumley I can be in a room full of people ,but still feel alone,but sometimes i like to be alone with my own thoughts,i think that is good for us all sometimes,but i have always felt alone,from as long as i can remember.

I would just like the world to be full of love,then we could all of us live in harmony,but we will only be able to do this in the spirit world,which is the only thing we all can look forward to one day.

Its the old saying (Hell on Earth)wont be any different on this planet,which is full of plenty of judgement and hell.

Love and God bless you Chumley   Juditha

Well, B, I think there may be "physical pleasures" in the afterlife, strange and wonderful as infinity's mind can create. When we are dreaming we occasionally enjoy all sorts of marvelous adventures and pleasures, even those which logically cannot or should not take place here on the earth. If we live in a realm of pure imagination in the afterlife, with those of like minds, there is no telling what adventures may be "ordinary" there.

Some people seem to be primarily "doers" and others "thinkers" and others emotionally driven, etc. etc. Some are purely pleasure driven.  In the afterlife would it not be much the same?  Those who want to be alone will be.  Those who don't won't be.  "Alone" seems always to be a figment of our imagination anyway, doesn't it?

In my world, there is no such thing. Even a table or a chair has life in it. A wall or ceiling has life in it.... living, breathing color, emotional resonance....sometimes they can seem to breathe, just as I do. My own mental projections? Does it really matter?

When I wonder to myself, just what makes me so important, that all this life is shared with me, a human being, far from innocence in this world, and yet, always new....I can see nothing special about me, really. Except that innocence, which can still surprise me.

"Innocence" asks, "where is my protector?" and other such questions. What we bring along with us on our travels is important...all the conclusions we reach during our lives...we take with us to the afterlife what we make of our hearts and imagination here.  To those who are given much, much is expected, right?  When we get it right, we just know. Nothing more to wonder about. It's very simple after all...what's all the fuss about?

love, blink

there is an instinct of survival built into our cellular structure. observe the smallest bits of life running around. now how does that roach on the floor escape my most stealthy manuevers to squash it? (I don't have roaches but I used to  

it is my theory once you don't care if you live, if you die, you have gone beyond the survival instinct into an ascension state, and there, as Kardek expresses eloquently, it has just begun because oblivion is not ours to deliver to ourselves.
then maybe I'm just talking. as take this example; a man is walking in a forest, looks above him at a tiger who is thinking yummy! man is desert! and I am representative of survival of the fittest. the man, an atheist spies the tiger and calls out from the chasm of his being OH JESUS! MARY, MOTHER OF GOD! SAVE ME!  another man shoots the tiger. later, the atheist ponders his calling out to be saved. why did I call out to be saved when I do not believe in God he wonders. because you need to believe speaks the little angel on his shoulder. because if you don't believe in something that gives you hope there is no reason to live.

love, alysia, I believe in love.

there is a new development in my phyche to illustrate what NeverSayDie (appropriate name!)  says here about us all being connected, so if one meets oblivion, all must meet oblivion because of our oneness.
this new development is a connection I feel with whats going on here on the board. and it happens sometimes. not every day, but enough that now I recognize it and ponder on it.  this morn, and I'm just sharing, not making a supposition)  this morn my post came to mind on this thread and a voice said someone is responding to this thread. then when I went to my email there it was. I'm getting used to these messages like commonplace, but wonder if anyone else gets messages? I'm pretty sure that we all do and when it happens it can show you our connections. but its not just here on the board, so not making the board special, its in your life when you value all your relationships, you get messages to help guide you in your life.

thanks Chumley, you bring us the real questions for observation. you are amazing also in the way you can do this. we got some real winners on this board, lol!

back to oblivion, anyone whos been at the bottom of the barrel can understand the wish for oblivion. just until you scream for help and a friend comes along, then oblivion doesn't seem so desirable when love appears. another way to look at our journey thru life that if annhiliation were a fact, it wouldn't hurt a bit! you simply would not be aware that this had happened.
however, like I said, I believe our connectiveness would not allow this to happen without a great many conferences among the disc members, which the number is unfathomable, so don't start counting, lol. theres just too many helpers out there and watchers and CW's to be thinking on annhiliation for long, my opinion and my experience also. I've watched my loved ones die one by one, family members, let me count them; mom, stepfathers 2, genetic father, mother, sister, boyfriend, grandmother, husband, thats nine. they are dropping like flies!
I've contacted each one, and the point is sooner or later they get on their helper gear, they know what the struggles we go thru here to believe in something, to have hope of an afterlife when it seems to appearance that death is a very big loss. the greatest 9 to 5 job is to be a helper. you lift one other soul up out of the doldrums, your place in the heavens is already prepared, because the one you helped goes to prepare it. just one person to help, thats all you need do. thats how we are connected as one. it really is fun over there guys, but its true we have work to do here first. love, alysia