I'm sorry you couldn't get his space to come up because Dude has much valuable insight he expressed over there in a visionary way, in terms of humanity, our collective belief systems.  in keeping with the intentions of his thread, of Gateway Experiences I for one, and I'm sure many would like to see what he's learning when he lifts up from his usual 3 dimensional C1 Limited consiousness areas. which btw, we are all in C1 when we post for the most part, so we're missing a lot of pieces to human psyche, a mind balanced left to right as Monroe teaches.
so now as I see it, we're getting off the topic of his intentions. As far as nonjudgment, it's in the bible. u might ask yourself what would JC feel, say and do, when reading Dude, I'm sure he would come from a place of higher understanding Dude's purposes and would not react emotionally, neither does such a high being get defensive in any way, JC says love others as you love yourself.

you might look at the punch line of Dude's post, that about says it all, about being more sensitive, not hurting each other, but reaching out to each other. we are in a shift in consciousness, we need each other. I'm trying my best not to say something stupid now, but the fact is the beginning of wisdom is to admit we know nothing about nothing.
therefore we might learn something.

Dude is a budding flyer, phaser, even as Monroe was/is, as we all can develop this, can we just invite him to continue his explorations without a lot of personal opinions that subtly suggest they don't know what they're talking about? I can't JC saying that to anybody. he might say something like "I will make you fishers of men." (includes women   well, good heavens Albert, look what this boy wonder has done to you, he's got you hooked! haha!
lets not react to posts we disagree with too much with defensiveness but see what their intentions are. spirit can reveal that for you if you want to follow Christ love.
Christ consciousness is a wholly balanced state, the left to the right, it doesn't judge, nor react, does not feel threatened, does not fear, it only sees perfection, therefore it creates perfect love, it always gives the person hurting a 2nd chance. and a 3rd chance. and etc.
The Christ is at your door 24/7 knocking. it doesn't hurt that much to let PUL come in; just a little twinge of unrest actually, then everythings ok.
See sticky stuff not there. see love, teach only love. even when they throw tomatoes at you, teach love.

If JC was here, what would he answer to each person? Would JC say to Dude, wow, dude, like, you've been dropped on your head seriously, better take up your cross and follow me?  this new generation we have here has no cross to pick up like the rest of us might be clinging to the old rugged cross. would JC say that, or would he say something like  I went out of body myself on many occassion, I did appear in two places on occassion, I did transcend the body, the father is in me, the father therefore is in you too, because I have overcome, I believe that faith will make you whole and you too can overcome. I don't think JC would say go and stick a sword of truth in my enemies and defend my honor. Thats not his way. He would probably say forgive them, for they know not what they do.
so if you practice forgivness you are stepping up your vibes into enlightenment more quickly with each passing day because forgiving keeps you centered in love, which love for others is what JC preached and what we teach here about PUL. thats its pure love, when it holds no enmity for what another does say, no matter what they say, spirit tells you what to say without creating disruption. my opinion.

in the end we're all going to be equal possessing the same knowledge and standing so why don't we let heaven come to earth ahead of schedule? just a few more years is my feeling. yet as individuals we can help bring it in.

I know one thing I've been forgiven. we didn't do anything wrong to come to earth, we're not "bad." so don't heap guilt on someone else, because if you do tell them there's something wrong with them for not believing as u do, this creates a guilt pattern in them and in your own self, because we are all one, what we give out, we get back to us. if you hand out guilt, you will feel guilty that you didn't feel love for somebody. if u get mad, they can sense you're mad and they send the anger back to you. then we just continue the pattern forever.

blessings to all religions and although I don't worship TMI principles, they surely set me in the right direction and got me away from that old time religion ideas which separate god from us by telling us we can't be like him and do his deeds too. we may only be one short belief away from our miracles. I don't have to do battle anymore about anything. I don't even have to save anyone from false beliefs. all I have to do is see them as perfect and that helps them to see themselves as perfect, would not JC create this way? Could you see him slipping out of grace like a man would? I doubt it.
lets study each others obes, fascinating pioneering work going on here! this type of exploration brings us knowledge of our unlimited selves. I do believe JC went obeing and phasing 24/7 and was in a constant center of his oneness with all that is.

I wonder what kind of world this would be if we only saw the light and love shining in each soul? actually there would be no need to come into body at all. except for the sheer experience of experiencing separation from our wholeness. Someday all the concrete may disappear. how wierd. A green planet again. clean waters. no blood spilled, no rape, no pillage, no tears to mop up. its mind boggling.


thanks for working with me on the other levels Albert.

Alysia:

Perhaps during this point of his life outofbodydude needs some people who aren't going to coddle and pamper him. Sometimes "yes, yes, yes" people, aren't what we need. It is clear from his post on this thread and past threads that he writes with the purpose of denying that Jesus Christ ever walked on this planet.

Alysia:

I believe you're refering to the post where the presence of Christ visited outofbodydude on a bus. This is why I suggested that dude must've been hit on the head or something. Christ was good enough to visit him on the bus, yet he continues to write posts which deny that Christ ever existed as Jesus of Nazareth, and basically makes a joke out of the existence of Jesus. One would think that if one were visited by the presence of Christ, one would have feelings of humility, grattitude, loyalty and love later on. Dude expressed such feelings immediately after his experience, but at some point got lost.

Regarding Jesus Christ instructing him as far as what needs to be expressed, would he really instruct him to say that he never existed in human form? What would be the point of doing so?

Just think of it. If Dude were correct, then any source of information that speaks as if Jesus of Nazareth existed, should be thrown out the window, in favor of what Dude has to say. This includes sources of information that assert the existence of Jesus of Nazareth when they purposely try to put him down, such as Seth and Elias.

DUDE:

Have you ever heard the expression, "don't count your chickens until they are hatched?"




LaffingRain wrote on Jun 27^th, 2007 at 3:59pm:

Here are the words from this thread where Dude wrote that Jesus didn't exist. He even included four exclamation points at the end of a key sentence:

"I went back to earth to visit some friends.

I appeared in front of my good friend Bruno, and he saw me.  

After freaking out, he said.. I always knew you were real, Jesus!  

THen I responded... I am not real! I am in your imagination, dummy! There is no Jesus!!!!"

In the past dude has put a lot of effort into saying that Jesus of Nazareth never existed. He did so even after he was reportedly visisted by his presence.  Part of his conclusions are based on what second rate psuedo intellectuals have to say about the matter.


LaffingRain wrote on Jun 27^th, 2007 at 4:32pm:

laffingrain,
I don't write much on this forum but I always read it and learn things from it.
I am really happy to see that you are really a deep one and that you have the way of thinking that you do, for me Dude has contributed enormously to this forum and i find Recoverer's reaction wayy too much...it really made me sad to think that a person who is supposed experienced in such matters can decline so much from pure unconditional love so easily and  attack in that way. In any case, i want to believe that Recoverer was just in a bad day...Laffingrain you are a treasure here, and Dude...take care man

Here's another factor relating to PUL. Besides speaking up for Christ, I was trying to "help" outofbody dude. I don't believe it is spiritually beneficial for a person or the people a person influences to speak of Christ as flippantly as Dude does. If he doesn't want to listen to what I have to say, that's his choice. At least ways I tried, instead of taking the approach that if I'm going to live according to PUL, I can never say something critical of what another is doing.

Dude's cerealic NDE story gave me quite a laugh...hahaha, Dude you're quite a guy. I even see some depth in this kind of humor, going against false respect and authority, opening freeways to some people, and illustrating how life sometimes is...bizarre.

But I too understand where Recoverer is coming from. Really. He is concerned that Dude is blocking an actual existing way for people to have access to wisdom through Jesus, as he himself has experienced it.

So I hope when people read the above they shouldn't get overly confused?!


Spooky

P.S.
May both sides of the force be with you...but get your hands off the third side, that's mine! Darth, I feel a quaking of the force when you're talking that way, so watch out 

My few OBEs always came when I was sleeping, after a dream, and I had it twice that a coolness was filling me, starting at my back. It was cold, but comfortable.

What you said OOBD about your million thoughts coming back and hindered the OBE process I've heard from others too. It shows the challenge of it, because to let something exciting happen, staying conscious but not start to think overly is a difficult thing. But probably practice can make it easier (for some...).

Spooky