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Nov 17th, 2006 at 4:18pm
 
I asked this in another thread (probably he wrong one) Huh, and got no responses.

It concerns "extra-terrestrials" and what part they may play in the whole scheme of things in this physical realm.  Is that a dumb question? Shocked

I have heard a lot of speculation as to who they are and their purposes.  Anyone with understanding?

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Reply #1 - Nov 17th, 2006 at 4:56pm
 
This is a tough question.  I have many ideas about this subject, however. The first is ideas I recieved from Robert Monroe's and Bruce Moen's books.  They claim to have interacted with non human begins, and say that they are interested in the earth because of the events which are about to take place. The alligning of some crazy energy is apparently going to shift conscienceness on earth. The details I do not have, just the general theory.  Some ETs are also interested in the energy of earth. However, there are other theorys which I do not discredit, either.  There is a report called Project Superman.  This man claims he was introduced to Silva mind teachings at an early age, and that basically the government turned him into a super human through mind control and other techniques generated through the mind.  This man claims that these projects were run by aliens. Reptilians. These beings apparently have a very strong influence on earthly affairs.  For what reasons, who knows. They apparently offer the government technologies not of this world, and since they are far more advanced then humans, its no wonder they have such control.  Ive read hundreds of documents stating these theories and some proving them to some extent. I mean, if the government is going to cover up a simple UFO crash (Roswell), imagine what else they are hiding.  THe point is, if I had to encounter a non human entity, I would prefer it to be the former i was talking about. Id rather not be some lab rat to giant lizards.
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Reply #2 - Nov 17th, 2006 at 6:20pm
 
Hi, OutOfBodyDude!

Interesting possibilities.  Yes, I have heard many other theories as to the ET agenda. 

I believe they do exist.  There are just too many witnesses to ignore--as there are in the world of the NDE.  Some that I have heard relate to them being the lost Ten Tribes returning; to God's destroying angles; to Satan's minions.  They must, IMO, fit in somewhere in God's plan for this world.

As to associating with the USGovt?  I wonder.  There are so many highly qualified scientists in the private sector that could take these technological advances and run with them to the benefit of the human race.  The idea of ET even associating with the US Government casts a dark shadow on the intent of ET.  IMO, that can't be a good thing for us.  Of course, anyone can repent Roll Eyes--even politicians! LOL!

I would love to hear from those fortunates who have been exposed to "the infinite knowledge"
thru their NDE.  Any ideas?
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Reply #3 - Nov 18th, 2006 at 12:03am
 
Hi OOBD-
From the standpoint of the extra-terrestrials, one might ask just what part WE play in THEIR destiny and the scheme of things ...
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Reply #4 - Nov 19th, 2006 at 4:12am
 
Hi Dannyboy

Good questions.  The 'religion' topic is similiar; I put my understanding of what i have learnt here.

First of all - I have writing taken from the Kabbala on 'The Seven other Worlds' and copy it here;

The inhabitants of the world of Geh sow and plant trees.  They eat everything from trees, but know no wheat or any kind of cereal.  Their world is shadowy and there are many large animals in it.

The inhabitants of the world of Nesziah eat shrubs and plants, which they do not have to sow.  They are small in stature and instead of noses have two holes in their heads through which they breathe.  They are very forgetful and when doing a job of work often do not know why they began it.  A red sun is seen in their world.

The inhabitants of the world of Tziah must not eat what other beings eat.  They constantly seek for underground watercourses.  They are very fair of face and have more faith than all other beings.  There are great riches and many handsome buildings in their world.  The ground is dry and two suns are visible.

The inhabitants of the world of Thebel eat everything from the water.  They are superior to all other beings and their world is divided into zones in which the inhabitants differ facially and in colour.  They make their dead to live again.  Their world is far away from the sun.

The inhabitants of the world of Erez are descendants of Adam.

The inhabitants of Adamah are also the descendants of Adam, because Adam complained of the cheerlessness of Erez.  They cultivate the earth and eat plants, animals and bread.  They are mostly sad and often make war on each other.  There are days in this world and the grouping of the constellations are visible.  In the past they were often visted by the inhabitants of the world of Thebel, but the visitors were striken with failing memories on Adamah and no longer knew whence they came.

The inhabitants of the world of Arqa  sow and harvest.  Their faces are different from any other.  They visit all worlds and speak all languages.

Ok.  That's the bit I have on the other worlds taken from the Kabbala.  From my understanding these worlds exist outside our galaxy system. Our earth is called 'Adamah' and we are called the Adamic human race.  Adam and Eve are major players in our consellation and from the 'Osirian Scripts' writings it says Adam and Eve are our worlds Viceroys.  In this same book it says Adam and Eve visit other worlds of gross matter and indicates God is also their Creator.

It seems these worlds exist in their own galaxies and therefore it would be incorrect to assume these worlds are part of our traditional seven planets.  It seems these worlds have their own planets and constellations.

The inhabitants of Thebel may be the ones whose spaceships have been found on earth.  The inhabitants of Arqa seem to be the most advanced in travelling to outer galaxies and obviously knowledgeable on the speed of light.

As people of the human race here; it is said there are, what is called, the Immortals who stay in our world permanently as Masters to guide us.  In my understanding the 'lost' twelve tribes of Israel are normal human beings, like us, who are advanced in the spirit and are very much part of our earth's cycle of reincarnation.

The inhabitants of Arqa might be the 'aliens' that so many people have accounted abduction stories and been operated upon in spaceships.   This is likely.  It is interesting to know 'Fairies' have similiar correlations to 'Aliens'.  In the misty past there were accounts of 'Fairy circles' which would appear out of nowhere and if a human had to walk in the middle of these circles they would disappear into another world, mainly a cave for example.  If they were liked by the Fairies they would have a huge party in the cave with the human but if not-liked the human would vanish for ever.

Rip van Winkle's tale is an account of an Fairy abduction.  In the cave it seems as if only a few hours go by but when he finally leaves the cave 100 years have go by.

Fairy lore also has a long account of baby abduction what was called 'changelling'.  Also of nursing mothers who would be abducted to look after the fairy babies.

Here we can draw similiarites to the alien abduction cases.  It seems that the Fairies have somehow evolved into aliens -unless it is two seperate species.

It is frightening and I am sorry if I have alarmed anyone especially young mothers.  The way I see it is they are either for God or they are not.  Do they come in the name of God and Christ?  If not I would be very cautious in immediately thinking they are good.  And I would not persue in looking for them at all.

I would use the protection of Christ everyday against these 'unknowns'. 

Aliens are mentioned in the Bible-

Hebrews 11v34
'Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens'.

So it is the world that is able to visit us, which we must be cautious about because they are obviously so advanced they will give 'great signs and wonders'.  I just wonder how deep is their faith and love for other creations?

We must never forget that we are the Adamic Human Race and not part of any other race.  Our race is our destiny.

Any comments or further information will be welcome.

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Reply #5 - Nov 20th, 2006 at 11:06pm
 
ET's who visit the Earth..hmm..good question!  We know through our own development and programs like SETI, that WE are searching for other life in the galaxy..so why wouldn't some other race of persons be searching also?

Eventually, we will reach the stars.  What will we find?  I believe we will find life in abundance "out there".  Not within our own solar system..with perhaps the acception of Europa, moon of Jupiter.  There may be some primitive, aquatic life forms there.

But..in other star systems..of which there are "billions" (emphasis on the B, alah, Carl Sagan Wink ), there is bound to be life.

Now, our only frame of reference is what WE do when we encounter life that is somewhat not as advanced as our own..past history shows we tend to corrupt it with our own ideas of how to live and our version of "god".  Consider the conquistadors..and Christians who came to America and what they did to the natives already living here..sad, really..to corrupt a culture so they could be "saved".

Would the ET's have the same motivations we did/do?  (even current events, from an American POV shows this same "attitude"..i.e. "lets bring democracy to the world!!)

Or, would they, being so much more advanced, having gained the ability to travel so far have some sort "prime directive" of noninterference? 

Or..maybe they are just curious?  Doing experiments, much as we do with lab animals?

I will say this though..in my explorations, I have found myself on more than one occasion on a planet I call the yellow planet.  I don't know what its true name is, but everything seems "yellow", from the plants growing to the dirt, hence, my reference to it as "yellow."  The inhabitants are not much different from us, but, I know its not Earth.
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Reply #6 - Nov 21st, 2006 at 3:07am
 
Shirley your rudeness exceeds your ignorance.
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Reply #7 - Nov 21st, 2006 at 8:53am
 
augoeideian wrote on Nov 21st, 2006 at 3:07am:
Shirley your rudeness exceeds your ignorance.

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Reply #8 - Nov 21st, 2006 at 9:20am
 
Augo said
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Shirley your rudeness exceeds your ignorance.


Why?

Shirley

I enjoyed your post on ETs.  Makes a lot of sense to me.  And you are spot-on with:

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past history shows we tend to corrupt it with our own ideas of how to live and our version of "god".
 

I always enjoy reading your interesting and enlightening posts.

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Reply #9 - Nov 21st, 2006 at 10:27am
 
I enjoyed your post too shirley. very good.
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Reply #10 - Nov 21st, 2006 at 10:31am
 
Thank you, Irene and Kardec..you both give me reason to continue here. Smiley Kiss
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Reply #11 - Nov 21st, 2006 at 12:02pm
 
What about the loosh gatherers. Were the supposed to be ETs or ...managers of some sort?
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Reply #12 - Nov 21st, 2006 at 5:59pm
 
Ladies, if you'll permit an observation, every seer, from Nostradamus to Carl Sagan, Einstein to Wheeler, and so on, has seen the universe differently. I have several books of "scripture" of various different religious persuasions (Buddhist, Taoist, Christian, Hindu ...) that all disagree. Yet I have confidence that in one or more ways, all of them are correct.

This is the paradox of the work we do: Because we are all manifestations of the multi-facted God, we all do it differently, we all do "the one best way", we all are correct, and in the end it's all the same One thing. The mountain of Truth rests on a broad and diverse base. It has more entries and byways than anyone can count,  and yet at the top it all resolves into One.

Climbing this heap we discover first, that all we personally need to do is to be consistent for ourselves and have faith. Then we reach the level at which all things are seen as defined by all other things, so that the seeming differences vanish. Next we get to the level at which all the distinctions among the things vanish as well, there's just a big smear of Oneness. Then we reach the Oneness and it all sort of goes away into Light. From that level we can see that our worst critics and our greatest supporters are all part of the process of defining the Oneness. And, as critics or whatever, we can either choose to express ourselves by opposition, "We differ", or by union, "We agree", or in any other way.

On this forum it is fully appropriate to differ and argue, or to agree and sort of blend in, or anything else. Within reason, of course. I personally have discovered that to express love is more fun, and that it brings me more love in return. (I try to keep this in mind when I write to our politicians about some policy that I think should be changed. But some politicians seem harder to love than others. Funny about that.)
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Reply #13 - Nov 22nd, 2006 at 5:09am
 
Shirley I apologise for my statement.  I should have stayed off the computer yesterday because I was over-tired.

When I'm over tired I find it very difficult to flower words.  You know in SA we have 13 different languages and cultures but all are South African.  The first thing our young youngs are taught at school is tolerance.  Tolerance for one another and tolerance towards the our different culture backgrounds.  This has gone along way towards peace in our country.

Therefore if someone mocks another persons cultural belief it is seen as an extreme disregard to that persons right of freedom of choice. 

Maybe both of us need more tolerance in our lives to become better people?

 
 
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Reply #14 - Nov 22nd, 2006 at 8:33am
 
Caryn, I accept your apology. But, I didn't mean it in a mocking way at all.  They were simply my own thoughts and observations of what has happened on this planet in the last several thousand years.

Earlier that day, my husband and I had been discussing our president and things he has done since in office..neither of us thinks our involvement in other countries is right.(Hence my comment about democracy for the world).

Humans in general are not a tolerant species.  We want to spread what we believe and evangalize, if you will, the rest of the world. That goes for all peoples.  And generally in religious/spiritual beliefs.  My personal belief is that we should leave other cultures alone..if they want to learn what we hold sacred, they will.

I have to admit, I was shocked by your statement.  I didn't see my comments as rude, and I don't view myself as ignorant either.  I have been where you are, in your beliefs.  Its just not something I hold as true for me anymore.

You have your views..but because mine are different, does not make me ignorant..nor does it make you ignorant.  My perspective from this side of the world is different from yours.
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