Hi Juditha..amateur scientist here..I spend alot of time studying. Studying all sorts of things, but one of my favorites is the cosmos.

In fact, I love to watch the show Cosmos, with Carl Sagan, one of the most brilliant minds of our time, in my opinion.

He had a program that went through the early creation of our universe..and our planet. Quite plausible, in fact.

Our planet, in its early stages, was hit with comets.  Comets are mainly composed of ice..that's where the bulk of our water came from.  And possibly even the building blocks of life..

The spark of spirit..which we all have, comes from an original spark. We are all parts of god..we are all god. WE are the creators..and the destroyers.  We are god and satan..all rolled up into one..

Then I would have to ask..who created god? 

If the answer to that is that he always has been..then perhaps, the matter/energy always has been too.

One other thing also..science generally does NOT address whether there is or is not a god. Its just not a scientific principle that can be proven or disproven with experiment.

Hi Juditha-
Of course you're right.

Science is a discipline based on a method in which we create a testable idea, and then test it, evaluate the results, and make a decision about what we did or dd not discover. All the rest is speculation.

Deanna's post about "Elvis" would have made a good experiment had it been set up in the proper manner before it took place, but such stuff is always given to us unexpectedly. The laboratory is not the best place for communications that require a particular frame of mind etc.

That's why scientists tend to privately believe that everything began from what St Thomas Aquinas called the "Uncaused Cause".  But that's not scientific. However, it is possble to look at some of the ways in which this Uncaused Cause manifests itself, such as love, truth, joy and so on, as well as the spiritual path by which we seem to be moving back to rejoin the Uncaused Cause, so that we too can be part of the process. And that's not scientific either, although we can do studies about the variety of experiences that are involved etc.

Scientists don't have to believe in God. It's enough that God believes in them.

PUL
dave

Shirley love i know you did not say that; i said it.  I was just talking to you about what seems to be the hard-core scientist attitudes which is sad because it takes away the magical Creation of the very thing they are studying.  As Stephen said; it is the wise scientists who the deeper they study the more they recognise the Creator who is omnipresent in everything created and us sparks cannot even start to comprehend an equation of God's ominpresent.

Shirley, to side track a bit i notice you have a small 'bump' on your forehead.  This is very interesting i have known a very few people who have this 'bump' and they have been very insightful people.  The origin of this bump, which now we may call an organ, existed many many years ago on the continent of Lemuria or Mu before Atlantis days.

200,000 years ago the people of Lemuria had reached a high level of civilisation, an accumalation of 3,000 years of advancement in their civilisation.  Not an civilisation has we know it today, for sadly we have forgotten what true civilisation means.  The Lemurian people had an natural connection to the Cosmic Mind, which may be called sixth sense, this connection was so natural for them it was not questioned or pondered upon.  It was there as natural as the trees and flowers around them.  They had an organ protruding from their forehead, the pineal gland,  this organ was so developed into the sixth sense of consciousness of the Cosmic Mind; God.  Whom they were in daily commune with.

They had an abundance of precious minerals and metals at their disposal; however they never traded or kept them for personal gain.  Maybe a special stone or so as a ornament but thought was never given to an accumulation of the jewels for self.   They had advanced knowledge of how to use these minerals and metals to the full potential; identifying the radio-active qualities in them to be used as a source of energy and travel in the air and on the sea.

With the submerging and continental drift of the continents; migration took place around the globe with a majority settling in Atlantis; continuing their culture.  Roughly about 15,000 years ago Atlantis too began to submerge and here the migration pioneered Egypt and the East.

Alas as time went on and communities were divided around the world the sixth sense organ began to disappear until eventually it was lost.  It is said through practice, insight and seeking commune with the Cosmic Mind; God- this organ may be developed again through the generations.  It is merely dormant waiting for awakening.

Shirley, i am reminded of this sixth-sense organ when i look at you.  Wouldn't it be wonderful to have this come back to us?

PUL
Caryn

The above brief discription of Lemuria is taken from 'Lemuria the lost continent of the Pacific' writen and published by the Rosicrucian Order, California 1931 (Roscrucian; AMORC - Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis) who some years before publishing this book received some very rare manuscripts dealing with many of the age-old traditions preserved in the secret archives of Tibet and China, from a representative of the Rosicrucian brotherhood in China.

ow that sounded like it was a nasty day for you Shirley; i hope it wasn't your hair!

If we believe in reincarnation then we can believe in shaping our future because we are the ones that are creating the future we will be living in years from now - what do you fancy Shirley?!

Ancient history is awesome and we were part of it as well; that's the most awesome part.

lol obviously you haven't read my other post 'dark night ..' yet - because i dare say you might find it what you call hardcore fundamentalist!! Its me, its my nature .. i cannot explain it well enough to you .. its just the way it is.

The lofty realms of science is great; furthering our understanding of the universe.  Rudolf Steiner PhD was a spiritual scientist linking the two sides of the coin together.

Wow the trip you going on sounds interesting .. where is the 'boonies'? i wonder what ancients did that rock art?

Hope you have a better day then yesterday and a even greater day tomorrow!!

Love
Caryn

This is where we are going:
http://www.texasbob.com/travel/tbt_seminole.html

The people who lived there, lived in caves..and painted awesome pictographs on the walls..for some reason, I feel totally connected to the place, almost like its "home"..

Great insight Recoverer.

I have also felt this sense of happiness and completion whilst mentally tapped into various spiritual realms. I have felt an emotion that can't be labeled under any of the emotions that we have here in the physical. It was so overpowering and undeniably blatant. It was like breathing physical air, except it was an etheric emotion that I inhaled to my core. I could have spent eternity in that emotion alone.

The funny thing about experiencing indescribable things such as the ones provided via spirit is that once the experience is over and one is back in their physical state of mind, the initial experience does not "generally" register in the same vein as it did whilst actually in that state in all of its entirety/glory. It's a hard concept to grasp.

With regards to scientists and their explorations of our physical reality. I once heard someone describe it as follows: "Scientists have been climbing a mountain only to discover that a philospher had been sitting up there the entire time."

PUL,
Cosmic_Ambitions