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Nov 1st, 2006 at 1:17pm
 
Do other life-forms in other physical galaxies/solar systems have belief systems such as ours? Do they have focus levels that apply to their firmly held beliefs as well? Is the belief system infrastructure the same for all life-forms in all of reality?

Beings Love is the agent that binds all of reality, transforming chaos into structure... Does it then follow that all forms of life within our physical universe function with Love as the backdrop for the main focus of existence? -- I'm wondering because I remember reading a passage from one of Bruce's books with regards to him running into some life-forms from another planet that had no idea what Love was... I think that these were the beings that shared eachothers thoughts.

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Reply #1 - Nov 1st, 2006 at 2:15pm
 
gosh, great questions CA. don't have much to share with you as I've never set an intention to explore other galaxies yet and just report some things I've read in that regard, like you. I did read from a trusted source all physical planet areas operate by means of belief systems and of course we are not the only physical planet with life. Other trusted sources reported beings who operate without the emotional body as well you mention they have a sort of hive mentality which means they connect by telepathy. Reminds me of Star Trek and Mr Spock. I wonder when we will be able to transport our molecules and beam up and down? Smiley they are starting to do that now with small objects. I have done some small study into the Urantia book regarding our races here on earth. according to this book our races have migrated to earth from other systems. this is Monroe's story too, that Earth did not birth him.
Interestingly enough the yellow race does seem to have a deeper connective fiber, as in a group mentality, a cooperative element to their character lacking in some of the other races, perhaps the white race. The Italians and Americans are more emotional than the English and Asian groups it seems. one explanation is its a small world but a large galaxy! as a matter of fact I've met a few englishmen who do consider their cousin America a rather rowdy and boisterous nation in comparison with their own demeanor. pm me if you want my sources. I have promised not to post here about that source due to some vigilante supporters of his who fear I will misquote or misinterpret. funny, we all misinterpret on a daily basis anyway. my source speaks of belief systems quite extensively and ties in quite efficiently with this forum topics and can be found easily on the internet.
your question about PUL to my pov would have to be that not all forms of life do have love (from our interpretation of love) as their backdrop or foundation. for instance, our animals have a basic premise of survival of the fittest and we wouldn't say they love each other, we would just observe our planet how one form of life gets eaten by another form of life and we wouldn't have a judgement on that.
I assume aliens are in development of evolution even as we are.

as far as running into beings who have no idea what love is Smiley this would include all my love relationships on earth. its basically my premise we teach each other what love is. here I'm speaking for myself. I invite any to share if they can explain well what PUL is in great detail with words. it can't be done. it must be experienced and words will always fall vastly short.

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Reply #2 - Nov 1st, 2006 at 2:34pm
 
Hi CA-
I once had a person who was carrying an entity who claimed to be from a different space-time. I even got him on video.  The problem seemed to be that after dying on his normal planet he was passing through our space and got stuck on this person. It bothered him because the body was the wroing shape and nothing fit properly. He (might have actually been any sex - or even part of a hive) said that the dimensions of our world were incomprehensible and different from his own, and was quite upset. When he tried to go into the light he found it filled with human people types, and not the same types as his own species.  I was lucky, I guess. I told him, "OK, that's no problem. Look over there on the other side and you'll find your own kind." A moment later he said, "Oh yes, I see them." And with that he was gone.

You can evaluate that any way you desire - all I know is what I reported. But it seemed legitimate. I also had a woman who told me that some of the beings from Vega or Aldebaran or somewhere like that had "chevron shaped faces" - similarly, that's all I know. However, there seems to be good reason to believe that the basic spiritual mechanisms are consistent across intergalactic spans. That's quite an interesting idea in itself.

Hope that helps -
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Reply #3 - Nov 1st, 2006 at 3:02pm
 
I love this Dave. Have you thought of writing a book?

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Reply #4 - Nov 2nd, 2006 at 3:32am
 
Thanks for the thoughtful replies.

Chuckles wrote:

"I wonder when we will be able to transport our molecules and beam up and down? They are starting to do that now with small objects."

I've actually read something about this... If my memory serves me correctly, I believe that they were conducting these experiments in either Australia or Britain. I know that they have teleported a photon from one area of the room to another using electromagnetic plates and other various instruments. Also, they are aware via scientific experimentation that these photons can actually pass information/communicate to one to another across vast distances.

I have to say though... I wouldn't want to be the first human to test the true mechanics of it all. I'm actually quite fond of having my feet secured to my ankles; not dangling from the top of my head!  Wink

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Dave wrote:

"However, there seems to be good reason to believe that the basic spiritual mechanisms are consistent across intergalactic spans. That's quite an interesting idea in itself."

It is quite an interesting idea; somewhat comforting as well.

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Dave wrote:

"The problem seemed to be that after dying on his normal planet he was passing through our space and got stuck on this person. It bothered him because the body was the wroing shape and nothing fit properly. He (might have actually been any sex - or even part of a hive) said that the dimensions of our world were incomprehensible and different from his own, and was quite upset. When he tried to go into the light he found it filled with human people types, and not the same types as his own species.  I was lucky, I guess. I told him, "OK, that's no problem. Look over there on the other side and you'll find your own kind." A moment later he said, "Oh yes, I see them." And with that he was gone."

I've written this account previously, but it pertains well to my following thoughts:

I remember when my father told me of his NDE, and how he felt himself travelling at a tremendous rate of speed through a vortex/tunnel towards the Light. He was guided with various sounds/melodies towards the Light, but he also felt that he "could" veer off course if he didn't follow the guideposts that were set before him. He said that he knew that it wouldn't be good if he did that; a very cold dark feeling in those directions. -- I'm wondering if this extraterrestrial being that had attached itself to this particular individual had been travelling through the tunnel/vortex towards the Light and happen to veer off course resulting in a trajectory through our solar system leading eventually to an attachment to this human being?

I just saw a show on NOVA yesterday regarding the topic of galaxies; particularly, what's at the center of galaxies. It was the scientists' understanding through rigorous testing based on infrared photos of our galaxy's center that at the core of our galaxy (and of all galaxies for that matter) lies an enormous blackhole. It was also shown that all matter and light once having passed through the event horizon are sucked into this blackhole; creating a sort of vortex of extreme heat and light. So, a "black"hole is actually filled with "light".

Scientists are not certain where these blackholes lead to, but they do know that they don't follow any of the laws of physics that pertain to the majority of our universe.

Beings the universe must have a fundamental all-pervading functional design behind it, would it be possible that for each galaxy (all 100 billion x 100 billion x 100 billion of them) in the known universe there resides a blackhole which its sole purpose is to act as a gateway to the Light that is in preparation for those specific life-forms inhabiting that particular galaxy? So, in Dave's story of the life-energy that got stuck within our planetary system, maybe when it sought for the Light the reason why it was filled with human people types is because it had veered off course with its initial blackhole entry within its own galaxy (the one tailored for its galaxy's paricular life-forms) and it ended up getting shot into our MilkyWay galaxy instead; experiencing our blackhole of Light which is tailored for our particular life-forms (e.g. humans).

This would tie in well with the "Light at the end of the tunnel" phenomenon; travelling at extreme rates of speed (i.e. speed of light). Also, beings time does not exist once accelerated to the speed of light, this would explain the sense of timelesness as described; furthermore, the "suction" effect as described by many NDEs whilst travelling through the tunnel towards the Loving Light.

(Just ponderances.)

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Reply #5 - Nov 2nd, 2006 at 3:11pm
 
I've associated the black holes with the NDE tunnels myself CA. also associated an obe where I died and surrendered to death. it was a bit like being sucked up into a tunnel. seems like when you're dying you don't have a destination in mind; you're just busy dying.  hmm. a photon is a particle of light, right? what I like about science is a story I read. Dave probably can name this thing for me. they took something tiny, like a photon maybe. split that baby in two and put it in another location. they then monitored the behavior or movement of the split thingy. according to the observer the item would behave differently. but heres the funny part: the two split items were so connected to one another that they showed this in their behavior; I assume the split photon was a mirror reflection to the other and if one moved one way, they other responded with a similar movement, at the same time. I wish I could explain this better, but it supports my All life is one premise.

ever seen the old movie "the Fly" CA?  the fly in the transporter ended up on top of the guys neck while his own head ended up on the fly...lol...his wife was really worried about him understandably... Huh
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Reply #6 - Nov 2nd, 2006 at 6:45pm
 
Hi Alysia-
The "split thingy" is a version of quantum entanglement. Quantum mechanics says that everything is totally independent and isolated, so that if we have an experiment where something gives off two photons, they have nothing to do with one another. QM also says that we cannot, with a single measurement, obtain information about the location and momentum of a particle. (Related reference material, if you want more, is Bell's Theorem or the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen, or EPR, paradox.)

The usual experiment is to start with any decay process that produces two photons, or any other pair of particles, for example decay of an electron and positron into two gamma rays. These come out of the decay with known polarization and energy (because all the quantum numbers have to add up). Then the experimenters notice that the particles retain polarization for quite a while, as well as other properties. QM says that this can't happen.

Further, because the two particles exit with known polarization and energy, it is possible to trap one and measure its energy, and to trap the other and measure its momentum, which means that we now know the momentum and energy of Both particles. QM says you can't do that.

The alternative argument, which is the one to which I subscribe, is that QM obviously wasn't written about paired emissions of highly correlated objects. Thus, there's nothing happening except a lot of fuss that gives people something to write about.

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Reply #7 - Nov 2nd, 2006 at 11:40pm
 
I've never seen "The Fly" Chuckles, but I can only imagine how startling it would be to have a fly attached to my neck, and my head attached to a fly's body! Sounds like a lost episode of "The Twighlight Zone".

I think I'll wait awhile 'till I try a teleporting machine. There's a lot of atoms/molecules that need to be arranged appropriately in order for me to be utterly satisfied. (Call me a stickler for details!)  Wink

Interesting read about the photons Dave, thank you.

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Reply #8 - Nov 6th, 2006 at 12:02am
 
yea, startling for sure CA Smiley  from the ladies perspective (chuckle coming) it would surely be grounds for divorce.

Dave isn't quantum mechanics different than quantum physics? I think we're talking about two different experiments. one seemed to be based on division, one is based on all the parts are one thing, sorta like how everything is effected by everything else.

I'll have to look up my notes I guess. hugs, alysia
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