Hi all. quote Dave: This kind of thinking means that karmic issues are embedded in us, and are not imposed by externals.

true. I was just thinking about this today. if we can change the karma to intentions for coming here embedded, maybe even embedded into genetic code that would work... I agree nothing is imposed by externals because everything is connected to everything else.

got one more story of how my mother's first husband did remember her after he passed on. 20 years after passing on! see, 20 years is nothing to him, alot to us. I think it was sweet. maybe I'm sentimental, but I like happy endings.
mom was going to pass on in a few years too. so she had a few spirits hanging around her. Jim and mother had had a rocky union. towards the end of his life they got back together and were planning to take life easy and go fishing, etc. just briefly. my mother was a strange bird. I have this picture of her floating on her back in this lake, fishing pole in one hand, eyes closed...no wonder Jim loved her. they'd quarrel once in awhile but end up laughing right after a quarrel. the future looked promising when he died in the hospital for a routine heart bypass. mother was so sad, because she had finally learned to get on with him and now they couldn't be together and just enjoy life.  so one night, guess who comes a'knocking on the old soul door to be let in? Jim. she laughed and laughed as he had driven up into her dreams in a convertible jalopy. so u don't think they drive cars on the other side? ok, so it's not golden streets and harps. we can drive cars or ride horses..I think that's cool.
so at last he had the car he always wanted and he wanted to show it off to mom; not only that, he asked her to come out of her body and take a ride. she did, she didn't need a lot of persuasion. she's had a few brushes with the spirit world now and then. they tore down the road kicking up dust. I think thats about as good as it gets; to be with your beloved just for the ride. much of our time had gone by, and he had not forgotten mother, oh and when she slipped from her body, she was young again.
it made her less afraid of death too.
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about having been someone else, and still being that someone else, personally, its like two energies that need to balance each other, because if they don't balance each other there is conflict. ok, wait. one is conscious and objective. the other is the still small voice. so what I see Dave doing is helping folks remember and balance the old with the new, the forgotten is brought into the conscious for balance with the belief systems in place.

as regarding that, Monroe met his other self whose name was also Monroe, although it was spelled Munroe. strangely, this makes perfect sense to me.

neat thoughts Doc and Dave. good thread   let me do a little take off what Doc said, as I'm working in this area quite a bit about the communication between spirits and C1 waking consciousness.

Doc said: In the spiritual realm, language is not used, so much as thought communication.

this is true but wanted to add my 2 cents to expand it a bit: when I go obe, its mostly not intentional, not an objective and a surprise in other words. I'd say it's a part of me sending me on a mission of discovery then, like theres my mind here and my mind there, which has the bigger picture I don't have here.
I noticed when talking to another, or communicating out there I can catch a few actual words and remember them when I wake up. but symbology is big out there as is thought transference, reverse role playing, reflecting each other. I've described the feeling of being under water when obe, trying to articulate language for my brain to remember.  the first awareness that I am lucidly out there is to note my inner energy body which is like the signature of a person. I "feel" my awareness moving in a form out there. it is I, but it can also be the larger I, projecting the smaller I unto the screen of...what to call it...I hate to say life is a big TV set, but maybe you'll understand. so whether its a TV set or a genuine location doesn't matter really, as what I'm discovering, about me, about the being more than you thought you were, that is what's important in breaking out of C1 constrictions of the limited mind.

back to the communication aspects of meeting another out there. I'm asleep in the body usually. but even if I'm awake, the feeling like you are conversing with someone is still there. like its in the back of your mind. then a few words or feelings become prominent and suddenly its a whole rote to remember.
I don't think the brain knows how to deal with this other part of you that is conversing without its help! well, its a thought. the energy body, your intrinsic self, your awareness is, seems to be a conglomeration of belief systems, experiences from perhaps many lives and a summation of all that produces an essence, or energy body which can separate from C1 confines gradually easier and easier until the final transition from the current body takes place. just my pov.

I have to give an example of spirit to spirit communication to make my point, which is not really a point, its really I'm sharing an experience from which you can make your own conclusions. god, I'm so wordy in C1!
I have this nurse aspect life, part of my essence in me. to the nurse aspect, she always wants to bring rest to another. its like her mission or something   its ok, but there are spirits don't want to rest too you know! well, I have a good friend out there prefer not to rest. of an expressive nature and highly involved in the earth waking everybody up to the truth. which is highly relative, so along comes nurse alysia offers a bed to rest from your toils. what happened is he didn't take my suggestions to take it easy. said he wasn't done here. then he somehow turned the tables on me and extracted a promise from me I would become more active like him.   I didn't want to make that promise but I did because I loved him. so love is always at the root of everything I'd say. even though, mind you, it's perfectly ok to be a nurse mentality, u know the world needs nurses too!

I'm sorry if I got off topic   but we also communicate with feelings out there and feelings are very important to not ignore. along with the beliefs we hold about ourselves and others..its easier to drop a belief system than a feeling I'd say while we are exploring our inner worlds with or without the help of good friends.

love, alysia