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Helper shapeshifts into an alien?!
Oct 11th, 2006 at 9:42pm
 
Hi people,

Tuesday I was in my usual relaxation/meditation. I went to what feels like Focus 21 or a bit further. The surrounding was dark, like outer space. I met a woman, I wasn't sure if she was one of my usual helpers, but she picked up my thoughts and we had a conversation, she gave me some advice so I didn't thought about who it was. It was about how I improve my awareness there, to more let go my physical body, I had at this point of time an uncomfortable feeling at the stomach area, which sometimes is stronger when exploring. Also I thought of the abilities of a shield around the physical body (REBal in TMI terms). Now, this woman told me something like to make the silver cord thinner and more flexible to get more distance to the physical body, as well as to put a second, nonphysical body asleep near the physical body so that it could not interfere while exploring. She then started to do an exercise with me, which I already knew. I had to look with my eyes (I had a sort of body out there obviously) in her eyes/at her face, and imagine that my center is at the heart chakra position, both at the same time. Additionally, she held both my hands with both her hands. It worked good, I saw her face relatively clear for some moments.

Then something changed. My viewpoint zapped to a different position, a bit above, backwards and to the left, and I saw the woman and "me" from this new position. That "me" now was making movements as if exercising at the horizontal bar, having the bar at hip position, grabbed with both hands and stretched arms, and revolving round the horizontal bar. I found this very inadequate and tried to stop this, but it was very difficult, this revolving of me/my body continued again and again, I really had to put all my concentration on it to make it go away. I had repeating persistent scenes sometimes earlier. Don't know what it is.

When I finally pushed that scene away and my awareness was again face to face with the woman, her face quickly shapeshifts into something that looked like an insect face, two more than golf ball big spheric facetted eyes, and a narrow and a bit lengthy mouth area. The skull wasn't as big as a human it seemed, the face was dominated by the eyes. The general shape was like an old gas-mask of WorldWar 1. Now, with the shape also the behaviour had changed: This being became obtrusive, wanted to come nearer to me, and it wanted something from me, and it didn't politely asked, it was about to GET it. I was quite astonished as I couldn't remember to have experienced something similar. I kept it on distance somehow, and imagined to be connected with that white energy, let it flow through me and radiating it, as well as I thought by myself when you think of PUL there will be no fear. That had the effect that my surrounding started to look grey and hazy, didn't saw this alien anymore, but felt like it could be still around, so I called my usual helpers and my "big I". I felt and saw then a circle around me of many, foggy figures, and felt secure. I then left with helpers I knew.

Later I two times asked helpers/guidance about what it was. The first time they simply said nothing. Silence. The second time I got a bunch of confusing bits of informations which are not usable.

Don't know if it's important at all. It just came really unexpected. I don't think about aliens usually, and I hadn't thought of insects recently, and not about gas-masks.
I noticed also the thread Juditha started with this "bad spirit". A test? Images coming from hidden fears? I don't know.

That was a bit
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Reply #1 - Oct 12th, 2006 at 5:59am
 
Hi Spooky!  Several thoughts, lets see if I can get them together..I had them while taking a shower..

My first thought has to do with the saying "I have a gut feeling.." or in other words, we feel fear and negativity first in the belly.  I've often used the phrase "I have a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach." which means I just know something "bad" is going to happen, and its usually just related to some fear.

Fear for me is felt first in midsection too.

When we think of "bad" aliens, they usually have the attributes you described..which goes right back to out fears.

Perhaps this "alien" was trying to "get" your fear?  Of course, negativity feeds on fear, so that's a possibility also..that she needed to "feed."

It could also have been a mirror to something within you...that needed to be let go.  A test or a lesson, perhaps..aided by your guides.

Perhaps..if she returns to you in your meditations, you could ask her purpose? Ask what it is she seems to want to GET from you?
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Reply #2 - Oct 12th, 2006 at 6:18am
 
I wanted to add..while I was taking my shower (its early morning here, and still dark outside), I could see your alien in my mind's eye..and felt a sense of fear rising within me also..which for me, it seems to represent some "fear."

We are naturally repulsed by insectlike creatures..most likely an instinctive reaction as bugs bite you..
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Reply #3 - Oct 12th, 2006 at 10:20am
 
Greetings spooky,
Did you notice that in your second paragraph you were changing positions very many times? Would that be about some change of mind on some issue you are thinking about? Or--Do you know the name of that position (or one similiar) at the bar?---perhaps its name is a pun or clue for your puzzle.
On the other aspect, I agree with Shirley, because....
Not too long ago here a link to a site on aliens was posted. Did you go there? It was particularly fact-filled, well illustrated, and logically organized, etc. I did not look at it critically because I go to links from here wide-eyed and ready to believe, just because they came from here. No more! It's too easy to accidentally pick up ideas that really don't fit with my core beliefs. Tongue  Perhaps you have accidentally allowed some picture or writing on these insect-type critters to gain more of your thoughts than you intended. Even though you are usually quite courageous in your explorations, abit of their fear might have crept in.
Respectfully submitted Smiley, bets

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Reply #4 - Oct 12th, 2006 at 3:57pm
 
Spooky, did you see it's body?  What you described sounds like the mantis space beings but they are very friendly and kind and loving, one of the most loving of our space brothers. I have a mantis guide/mate in another dimension named Jukro.  And there is nothing to fear from them. I always wondered why I was so fascinated with the praying mantis and then I found out why when I met my guide. He first appeared to me in a TMI meditation group in a garden sitting on my chest. Wink

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Reply #5 - Oct 12th, 2006 at 4:30pm
 
Hi Spooky I feel by reading your experience,that this woman is another spirit guide coming into your life,thats why she was giving you advice,also your fear came from the way she looked,because if we dont see a face ,that we call normal,thats when the fear comes into it, until you get used to this space being,as Marilyn said it could be a mantis spirit guide,and that they are friendly,kind and loving,and thats really great.

I had a lot of fear with my experience Spooky and also it being my first out of body,but im starting to come to terms with that now.I have been reading about St Padre Pio and he had simaler experience,that i had,and it was because of his really strong beleif in God,also he had the stigmata for 50 yrs.

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Reply #6 - Oct 12th, 2006 at 7:00pm
 
Hi all,

Shirley, yes I'm working on my gut feeling, trying to figure out where it comes from. I have it everytime, sometimes weaker, and sometimes stronger. I had also very short times when it left me and I felt like I'm sitting on top of the world then- a feeling of being free. And perhaps this alien was a sort of image for my fear, or it was a real alien and it met me for a reason which is related to my fear (if my gut feeling actually is fear based, I'm not sure if it's the right word, as I said, I'm working on it).

Bets, I thought about what name this exercise had, in school I did it...and, I think, it was called "belly-wave", that's interesting isn't it? Could be an allusion to my gut-feeling! I'm not aware to have carried alien-knowledge from websites with me, but I remember I once were on those sites, so might be true. But, what I remember too is, some years back (David?) Mack's book about alien abductions was in the media, and I had to really push away the thought to wake up in the night with some aliens around me, ready to take me off for some experiments; that was a very scary topic for me; I don't remember that such a thing ever happened to me. Never saw an ufo. But poltergeists for example, that's scary for me too, never experienced one though.

Mairlyn, what a surprise! I wanted to write "like a mantis head" but couldn't because the English word wasn't in my German-to-English dictionary! But in my English-German one I found "mantis", so that's exactly what it looked like! I know this because I've seen many photographs and movies about animals, and also one of a mantis. Couldn't see the body, only the head. So, very interesting! In German it's called (translated) "God's worshipperress".

Yes Juditha, I notice in daily life how much I'm influenced by outerly attributes of people, fortunately I'm aware of it, so I can try to reduce automatical responses of mine that are only caused of superficious outerly look and prejustice.
I have read your experience, it's something new when first OBEing, it takes awhile to digest it and to cool down isn't it? I have heard of Padre Pio, it is told he was seen at different places at the same time. In Italy he is a kind of national saint and there are many who pray to him and ask him for help.

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Reply #7 - Oct 13th, 2006 at 12:10am
 
Just to toss this out - If you look at the pictures of the "aliens" that are reported around UFOs, they all could be insectoid. Perhaps, for planets that didn't have the same history as ours, the dominant species might be insects. It's possible that mammals are a minority.
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Mairlyn, what a surprise! I wanted to write "like a mantis head" but couldn't because the English word wasn't in my German-to-English dictionary! But in my English-German one I found "mantis", so that's exactly what it looked like! I know this because I've seen many photographs and movies about animals, and also one of a mantis. Couldn't see the body, only the head. So, very interesting! In German it's called (translated) "God's worshipperress".


Very cool Spooky. Have you ever read any of Laurens Van Der Post's books?  He wrote about the Bushmen of Africa and the mantis always figures in  his books. The Mantis is the creator to the Bushman if I remember right.

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Reply #9 - Oct 13th, 2006 at 2:42pm
 
Wow, that's quite an adventure Spooky; hope you'll get more informations on this shortly. It's always interesting when those experiences happended. Leave us with a lots of; why/where/who was it really.

Thanks for sharing
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Reply #10 - Oct 13th, 2006 at 7:16pm
 
Hi,
no didn't read that book Mairlyn; Romain, yes interesting! About the "where", it was near Focus 21, I'm never absolutely certain in which Focus Level I'm exactly in. But interestingly, from the first times I was able to get something while listening to F21 HemiSync, to me there was a huge space station for spacecrafts, similar to an airport, and also a place where you can travel to other far away worlds nearly instantly, in a way they did in the old tv series "Time Tunnel".
In one of the confused infos I talked about I found that my encounter had in some way to do with "shamanism". Today I went again to get more infos. I imagined that it was a friendly guy as Mairlyn supposed. Then I made an affirmation, that I'll be like air, no one can harm me or take something away from me, except informations, and only if this being is friendly. So I concentrated on this mantis being. I saw short unsharp flashes of this being, then it stabilized more; what was a bit scary was the movements it made with its arms/legs and what it all had. But I stayed cool, there was an information flow but too weak to distinguish any details; it came nearer, and finally was in the same place I was. I sensed a very careful, thoughtful and calm mind. I asked where did you come from, and how? I saw pictures of a group of this beings, communicating; all in all they seem to be doing things slowly. There was vegetation, with green leafs that were about the size of their bodies. They seemed to live on these leafs. Then I saw a group of them standing close together, touching each other, and they didn't move. They were in a sort of meditation! And then I thought, they do astral travel, the answer of my question how the came here. I'm sceptical about these infos, don't know how much of it is imagined by me.

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Reply #11 - Oct 14th, 2006 at 2:26am
 
This is really interesting. I begin to pay more attention when
several poeple see the same thing, and this has a tendency to head
things more toward verification.

It is a fascinating idea that an insect could become the dominant
species on a planet. On Earth, the insects were the first to take
to the air. The dragonfly once reached a wingspan of 3 feet.
But then the small dinosaurs, who had evelved feathers as a
protection from the cold, learned to fly, possibly from jumping off
tree limbs. This began their evolution into birds. Indidentally, a
few months ago, a squirrel fell out of a tree and fell 15 feet to
the concrete path in front of my door, and without skipping a beat,
ran to a tree and climbed right up it in a hurry, because there are
cats around here. So that suggests to me how a species might learn
to fly. With dinosaurs able to fly and prey on insects, the insects
would have lost their chance to become the dominant species.

On earth, the praying mantis dies off in winter and is born again
from eggs in the spring. Thus there is no cultural transmission
from one generation to the next. On Earth, the mantis is not a
loving species. They are a successful predator that eat other
insects. They eat each other upon hatching, if there is not enough
else to eat. But winter is only a product of the axis tilt. There
are planets like Venus that have no axis tilt and would have no
seasons. There, there would be no dying off in the windter. The
axis tilt is a product of the random scatter in a billion solar
systems that are out there. Like, Mars has an axis tilt that is the
same as it is on Earth. The random scatter would allow for the
occurence of a planet like Earth, but with no seaseons, or maybe no
serious winter. This would completely change evolutionary
development from what it is on Earth. An unusual dominant species
could be possible. There is also no winter in the tropical zone on
Earth, but that is just one more factor in an intricate web of
development.

This also suggests the possiblity of panspermia, where a similar
species could be spread out on a million planets. On Earth, the
conditions were not right for the mantis to become dominant.

There is also some UFO lore to the effect that this developed
mantis is on board UFOs, along with other alien species, and are
tall as humans, and seem to be in charge of operations.
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Reply #12 - Oct 14th, 2006 at 2:54am
 
The mantis aliens aren't insects. They're called mantis because they resemble the praying mantis.  It was the mantis people that came to the Bushmen in Africa and that's why they revere the praying mantis as they equate them to the mantis aliens.

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Reply #13 - Oct 14th, 2006 at 2:23pm
 
Thanks, Mairlyn. The picture of a mantis creature I saw in UFO  literature was only a drawing by some artist. It showed a tall creaature
standing upright on 4 of its 6 legs. It had eyes of the insect type
that show many small lenses in a shape like half a sphere. Your
source came up with something else? Are they bipedal, like most
aliens? Why do you think that they are not insects? I am very
curious about such things. Anything you would add, spooky?
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Reply #14 - Oct 14th, 2006 at 7:44pm
 
Not really something to add Boris; I had the impression that these beings have the size of a human, when they would stand stretched upright they would be higher than most humans, maybe basketballplayer size.
As you are interested in evolution, I heard of an interesting thing which I haven't heard about before: The density of the earth's atmosphere has changed when higher animals already were there on land (say some scientists), to a degree that it had much influence on every animal that flies (or tries to fly lol), as well as the concentration of oxygen, important for quick moving muscles, and especially for big insects as their oxygen-intake/reception system is relatively poor for big sized animals. Also, regarding the size, the upper limit of size of an insect seems to be smaller than the limit of dinosaurs or mammals, because of the exo-skeleton and the design ot their blood system and organs, as well as heat regulation. But, other planets, other evolutional ways I guess.

About the panspermia theory, I'm sceptic that it's possible for higher life forms, as the damage to the DNA through the long space travel would be too great. (Well, of course if you consider that it could be brought with spacecrafts it's a different thing)

Spooky

P.S. A problem for my further explorations in this regard is the interpretor overlay; once having a picture in mind how it "should be" it's almost impossible to get rid of it again, except if I could change my way of perception out there.
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