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Reply #15 - Oct 14th, 2006 at 9:45pm
 
Greetings,
I wonder how big is the point of consciousness that is life? If it is very tiny, like small enough to slide through nerves without rearranging the knotted ganglia, then it must be very small and could perhaps fit in crevices of asteroids, etc.
And many layers of the seed/egg are really only protection or food, just for that point of consciousness? Then such an intelligent species would add more artificial layers to that so that any eventuality would be protected against.
Not only is this interesting for the mantis people's arriving here, but also for those of us who'd like to try some other planets in the future.
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Reply #16 - Oct 15th, 2006 at 8:49pm
 
Hi Betson,
the main difficulty in this I see is the amount of radiation and/or particle impact an organism/egg would receive during a long space travel. We here on earth are relatively good shielded against that. High vibrating electromagnetic radiation (X-rays, gamma, cosmic rays) is very penetrating. (That's btw an argument the doubters of the moon-landing and the critics of a mars expedition are putting forth)

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Reply #17 - Oct 15th, 2006 at 9:39pm
 
Hello everyone,

I'm going to throw in my two cents. I remember reading in one of Joe McMoneagle's books (he's the famous remote viewer who used to work for the gov't) about he had an experience with Monroe at TMI many years ago. Monroe had asked without telling Joe how did our planet or humanity (i forget which) begin? Joe described a race of "insect" beings who developed the system and the eventual evolution of the human form.
If you then connect this to the concepts of Loosh, and energy harvesting, that RAM talks about, you begin to get the full picture - or something really distorted Wink - the earth plane was developed as both an energy harvesting ground and learning center for souls. These aliens as Spooky is seeing could be the caretakers of Earth watching over the energy harvesting aspects (the feeling of wanting something from him). On some level, it seems kinda scary, but it's really an exchange of goods and services. We get human forms to play with, produce the Loosh, and share it with the property owners (Earth caretakers) and most importantly gain a top-notch education from it all.
Sound crazy?  Shocked

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Reply #18 - Oct 15th, 2006 at 10:31pm
 
That's an interesting idea Mike- sounds crazy, but some things which had sounded crazy to me in the past are now normal for me...

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Reply #19 - Oct 15th, 2006 at 11:13pm
 

I have no personal data to back up this particular theory.
BTW, I have seen a few different aliens in my experiences. Always takes me aback. Nothing to be worried about though, I think. We share the Universe with all sorts of beings.

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Reply #20 - Oct 16th, 2006 at 7:26pm
 
Hi Spooky,

I haven't read a lot about this, but from what little I have read, mantid spirits aren't the friendliest of beings.  I've actually read one report of someone who had was projecting while on Salvia Divinorum, who encountered some mantids and felt that they were trying to keep him from being able to return to his body.

Without meaning to denigrate Marilyn's experience at all, I know an encounter like what you described would make me extremely uncomfortable...I'd be asking the entity in question to leave, and possibly even asking for some help in removing it.

I believe myself that some genuine threats do exist in astral space/the Afterlife...from memory at least Bob Munroe's first book describes some experiences which weren't always pleasant.
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Reply #21 - Oct 16th, 2006 at 9:29pm
 
Hi Petrus, thanks for your input!

You said:
>>>felt that they were trying to keep him from being able to return to his body.<<<

I actually had considered this, as that happened after I was in conversation about how to get more distance/independence of the physical body, regarding my focus of attention when exploring.

So I'll keep my eyes open and be careful.

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Reply #22 - Oct 18th, 2006 at 2:48am
 
This is shocking Spooky  Shocked  It is a form of hypnotism.  SNAP out of it.
But I suspect you know this.

The San do not believe the prey mantis is God.  They believe God is God - do not insult their spirituality or intelligence.  

I haven't heard so much cr*p in all my life.
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Reply #23 - Oct 18th, 2006 at 8:41pm
 
Hi augoeideian,
that may very well be that it was hypnotism, it's an ongoing process to decide what in my life is true and what is delusion.
Of course a single thing in the world cannot be God, if God has created everything and/or is everything.

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Reply #24 - Oct 18th, 2006 at 9:06pm
 
On the other hand, hypnotism is just guided meditation, and goes no deeper than the meditator prefers.

I had a patient who mentioned that beings from Vega (I think it was) had "chevron shaped faces". Personally, looking at evolution, it seems that any type of evolutionary stage might well have endured. We were almost wiped out by mollusks and gastropods, and the intelligence and curiosity of octapii is notorius. There's nothing but pure fate to stop the evolution of tube worms into a space faring culture. The insect thing caught my attention because of the general reports by UFO kidnap victims that the "Greys" come in two sizes, big and small, with the big ones supervising. That sounds like termites. If any of us are kidnapped or otherwise transported to a UFO, I'd like to inquire whether they are oviparous and whether they have a "Queen". That kind of thing would also suggest a reason for studying animal reproductive organs, assuming that those cow mutilation reports were valid.

Panspermia has pretty good accidental support from NASA. Someone disassembled an old space vehicle that had been brought home for some reason and discovered that there were numerous little bacteria living in it, despite solar radiation storms etc. This is an incidental observation, but it suggests that RNA or similar enzymatic organizers might be able to make the inter-stellar voyage. Most of the way it's just cold, anyhow, without especially high levels of radiation. Maybe Matthew has more on this.

Another thought - I had a patient who met a shape-shifting "guide" who tried to trap her. Evidently, it can happen.
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Reply #25 - Oct 19th, 2006 at 5:49am
 
Thanks for the replies.  Dave, please do not think that I was being dismissive of hypnotism.  Clinically it has good merits guided by a professional like yourself.

However, as a 'play around' spiritual tool I do think it is dangerous and maybe more so hemisync.  I say this with respect but as we know our brains are our computer.  When we first discussed hemisync I did some research to find out the wave patterns of our brain.  The encyclopedia did not mention anything about 'waves' but maybe neurons is another word.

Briefly the brain; 
(just have to decipher my notes here)

Made up of three parts 1) crebrum 2) cerebellum 3) brain stem.
Each consists of neurons and supporting gila. Nerve cell fibres linking spinal cord receive messages from sense organ, messages of touch and temperature throughout the body.  Motor cortex - nerve impulses that control the movements of all the skeletal muscles.  Cortex processes and stores information, mental abilities, thinking, speaking and remembering.  Hypothalamus receives nerve impulses and routes to appropriate areas of the cerebral vortex.  Brainstem connects to spinal cord, movement of eyes, hunger, awareness.  Medulla is breathing and heartbeat.  Brain cells consist of 10-100 billion neurons and supporting gila.  Thin membrane called axon surrounds neurons specialises in carrying nerve impulses from cell body to other neurons and picks up impluses from the axon.

Sorry, my notes are rather brief and I am sure a bit vague but any description of the brain in a encyclopedia will get the order right.  And of course this is baby talk to people like Dave, Spooky and Matthew and ... all the other clever people!

In essence though we can see how important are brain is to us.  It is our computer and like any computer it may be re-programmed.

I have to stop now and go out - without addressing Panspermia but would like to carry on when I get back or if not tomorrow.

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Reply #26 - Oct 19th, 2006 at 10:00pm
 
Yes Dave, when they got me I will say "By the way, I have a question sir, or are you a ma'm and maybe even an oviparous queen?"
I sometimes had taken a look into far away worlds (don't know if they only exist in my mind) by using these tunnels I've found out there. Mostly the impressions were very hard to grasp. I remember being in tubes, in a thick liquid, as a sort of Borg-like element of a collective, and at Monroes "The Gathering" I found a sort of collective being that was somehow the whole surface of a planet. The best was what I call the "blue airy world" where I communicated by being a semi-material field which could take on any form and vibration-style, hugging is an art there. Much variety, and sometimes very difficult to communicate and understand.
When there was this hype around Mack's book about the abductions, I thought to what degree are these alien descriptions resulting from a sort of hysteria, people hear those descriptions and then begin to "remember"- or fantasize? Unfortunately it seems to be impossible to find it out, because it's impossible to know all the influences a person was exposed. After this narratings of alien abductions have become known (almost) worldwide, you never know what's genuine and what's confabulation.

Caryn, when stimulating brain waves ("brain wave" means just cyclic activities of clusters of brain cells) people tend to react with "states", but it's, I think, not possible through acoustic soundpatterns to transport certain, special messages or suggestions. TMI assures there are no subliminal messages on their tapes as far as I know, and even if, subliminal messages seem not really as effective as to get dangerous.

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Reply #27 - Oct 20th, 2006 at 4:16am
 
Hi,

Spooky thanks for the clarification on brain waves. It was incorrect of me to say re-programmed because they are not programmed in the first place but in a natural state.  I still do believe our brains do hold a key and this why we see the symbolism of the Skull always portrayed under the Cross and many paintings of the wise philosophers in the past holding a skull or having the skull at the feet (the feet symbolising Pisces)

Spooky and Dave your postings are quite remarkable. Please do not think I am an authoritarian on this subject. I am learning as I go along and offer my understanding on this.  Also, please excuse my bad language when I said this it is my thoughts; these things should not be controlling people; humans.  We are higher than these things.

Pan ... (not Pan the God of the fields; Pan the elementals)

A bit from Astrology on the elementals;

The elements in astrology are the expression on the natural plane of the activity of the four elements.  The Gnomes are the earth beings, the Sylphs are the air beings, the Undines are the water beings, and the Salamanders are the fire beings.  It is erroneous to call these beings ‘spirits’.

These elementals are expressed in the natural four elements; of which there are five in number, for it is maintained that the four themselves restless, and even in enmity with each other, so that they are bound into a temporary pact (such as is required by the world of material form) by a fifth element.  This fifth element maintains the pact between sublunar things, and is called the Quintessence.

And a bit from Mythology;

From 'The voyage of the Argo' Hercules is onboard the Argo ship with Hylas who was his squire.
Hercules and Hylas went ashore to find wood.  Hercules became thirsty, and he bade Hylas go to the nearest stream and draw water for him.  Hylas came to a little woodland pool, shaded by tall trees and fringed by delicate and fragrant flowers.  As he bent down to draw water for his pitcher the nymphs who lived in the stream saw him, and were at once fascinated by his beauty, for there never lived a boy handsomer than Hylas.  Swiftly they rose from the pool, and gently they took him by the hand, and soothingly they invited him to their underwater grottoes.  Their voices like waters murming and leaves rustling lulled Hylas into a will-less slumber, and slowly pulled him down into the embracing waves, which gave him up no more.  Hercules sorrowfully lamented this loss for ages.

It is related of Jason and the Argonauts that on their return voyage they experienced other adventures, in one of which only the wondrous melodies of Orpheus saved them from the enchantments of the sirens.  (Sirens sea elementals)

We can see here the ancients also had the same experiences as you did Spooky.  Every Myth relates to the same event (Man's passage through life) The stories are just told differently with different characters and different places.

The bacteria found in an old ship is interesting; here the elementals are spirit forms and would not produce bacteria. 

Well, with no conclusion I'd just like to say be careful, as we read from these Myths, elementals are deceptive, love to seduce and entrap.  Also, my pov this is all in the astral world.

What do you think of this in relation to your experience Spooky?

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