Hi If we have to reincarnate,i bet there is not one person on here ,in all honesty ,would want to come back to this, if they do,all i can say is that they must have had some kind of fantastic life,while they were here.I mean to say ,what is the attraction of coming back,for a start,you have to come back as a different person,different family,and that means never being with the family you loved before.Not great knowing that.

I would not want to come back,i would be to tired to go through it all again,i dont want to die yet,but when i go to the spirit world ,i want to stay ,where it is love all the time and peace,which there is very little of on this earth plain.

I mean what would you rather have,a world in spirit with love,or a world with hate and the occasional love.

I love God very much and i try to give out as much love as i can,and he knows how i feel inside myself and why im saying all this,but this is my feelings on reincarnation.

Love and God bless you all Juditha

we get credit for time served.

you will always work with your soul group, possibly for hundreds of years, until you resolve issues with that person in your soul group, and the karma is balanced out.  when this is done on earth it works better.   people chose to work on the following list of items  with the following list of people, in the effort to resolve the following issues.  when you are done you can choose whether you want more contracts with those people or not but as your all knowing higher self, you will eventually choose to work with all your people until everything is done, because thats the way.  its the way.  pain builds you and learns you and gives you unlimited beautiful facets.  as all other activities do.  everything bad is good and everything good is good because its all a part of development.  i tell myself the following statement when i lose sight of stuff: "everything is happening as it must."

this school is very special and only certain students are admitted.  we get extra credit for being here.  we come back because we make that decision from our higher selves.  now we dont have all the information, its hard to see why we would ever choose to come back.  personally i have thought many times about not only not returning, but about leaving early.  i know i would come back.  so it would be sort ofa waste.  especially since i may never have in a thousand lifetimes the voice i have now (opera singer)  so if i love it i better use it while i got it.  it was like winning the lottery to get it.  not to say that i wont leave early, but i think finally there is a possibility that i will stay.

when people get all the information while they are here at school, they become prophets or enlightened or whatever you want to call it.  then they might not have to come back, because all their stuff is settled.  there is a time when people stop coming back, and its after they have done the work they set out to do.

so whatever tasks you assigned to yourself, the faster you get them done the sooner you can move on and do other stuff off planet.

perhaps if you remember that everything is happening as it must, maybe there will be some comfort.  very hard among the pain i know.  but you are immortal and you are going to be okay.  the spirits will comfort you if you ask them.  its not the same but its definitely something.  sometimes i ask my group to help me and they dont think i am serious.  when i make clear just how distressed i am and requiring of assistance, they help.  i dont know how.  lots of times they send me good people in  the street to say a kind word.  or they send kittens and puppies.  they especially send things they know i like.  like sparkles.  everywhere.  I'm sure you have had these experiences before.  I am sorry you had been feeling down in the dumps.  youre never alone.  i am sending pul.

I used to believe that reincarnation works in the way commonly thought, but I don't anymore. One incarnation is enough for almost all of us. IT ISN'T LIKE THE LEARNING HAS TO STOP ONCE WE'RE IN HEAVEN (sorry for shouting). I can't say I know 100% for certain, but I feel pretty confident. There might be some exceptions.



Juditha:

If you prayed to God and asked him to "really" let you know whether or not reincarnation exists in the manner people believe, he might provide you with an answer. It is much better to check in with him, than to try to figure out which books are true and which aren't.

I have another comment regarding the below from Juditha's post. It makes a lot of sense. I know I wouldn't want to come back if I were in heaven, not unless I did so for service reasons. Many people who have had near death experiences have expressed that they didn't want to return, and did so only because they had responsibilities to take care of.

One interesting thing about near death experiences is that people who are caught up in a negative way of living drop this negativity and live according to love after just one experience. So why does one have to live so many incarnations before they can learn about love?

It seems to me that Gurus from the East are partly responsible for the idea of reincarnation. Supposedly a person has to reincarnate over and over again until they finally become enlightened. The thing is I've known plenty of gurus and their followers, and it doesn't seem like anybody was getting enlightened in the manner gurus speak of.

I read something about Elizabeth Claire Prophet's group the other day. It is said that if a person leaves the group, 10,000 incarnations would be added to that person's growth chart. A similar feeling was held by a group I was with. People believed that if they didn't become enlightened they would have to reincarnate again (the number of incarnations weren't stated). They were afraid to leave guru because doing so would mean that they are off the enlightenment/liberation trail.

Has God really set things up to be so difficult? Does it really take hundreds or thousands of incarnations before a person can learn about love?

I do believe in reincarnation in a disc/I-there/soul group sense, but I believe this is quite a different thing than a particular self having to incarnate over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over... again.

Did I go overboard with the  "over agains?" Reminds me of the multiple incarnation idea.






[quote author=juditha link=1160339898/0#0 date=1160339898]Hi If we have to reincarnate,i bet there is not one person on here ,in all honesty ,would want to come back to this, if they do,all i can say is that they must have had some kind of fantastic life,while they were here.

I've never had a memory of a concurrent lifetime. 

I don't think the purpose of the Earth Life System is to simply learn how to love though.  There are many things to learn here, that cannot be learned in the spirit world.

I think too though..too strong a belief in "heaven" will get you there...

Hi Recoverer I agree with everything you have written here.thankyou for what you have written,and i agree with you deanna as well,God is love and light,courage and strength,wisdom and salvation.
Love and god bless  Juditha

Hi all ,heres something you'll find of great interest on this subject.

www.near-death.com/experience/cayce03.html


Cayce was one soul who brought back much truth from the higher planes. I know its hard to take when where so involved in the physical, but the real truth for all of us is. If we want to get out of here we need to face the very things we deeply want to avoid. Avoidance is what binds you here,and you will continue to repeat and repeat until your so dam sick of the repetition you just can take it any longer, then you will say to yourself enough, I'm going to change the way i respond to this and bing-go its all over,well the hard part is over anyway. What that bing-go moment for each of us is, is up-to your higher self, its all about what we agreed to when we came in from the higher planes.

You must realize that at this moment your soul is working hard to figure it all out , and to say its search is not in-vane here. There are many answers already in print, you may not like all of them though, And you can tell there truth by how strong a response you have when your reading the material. I used to when something I didn't want to know was written and I new it was the truth would say to myself rubbish its rubbish. Then I'd go away and say its all about what I want to believe anyway so I choose to believe so and so. But the truth is not all about what we want to believe its what it is and there is no greater truth than cause and effect . Thats the law you receive back what you put out, maybe thats why where all having such a hard time of it, where cleaning up our rubbish, well I know I'am and I'm happy to do it anything it takes .

In response to Deanna also, I'm wondering... if the afterlife is ALL good... well how can that be possible? Don't we need the bad to have good at all? Like the pendulum theory, of how as far as the pendulum can swing towards the bad, it also swings towards the good- is this JUST a theory or JUST something that exists in the physical world? We all see examples of this every day.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to think that there will only be good things in the afterlife, and I do believe in God with my whole heart, but can anyone explain how the bad is eliminated? Wouldn't that just slide the scale of goodness?

Sheesh! I seem to have a lot of questions. I'm glad I found this board.