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Re: Enlightenment and the Myth of Purple Smoke
Reply #15 - Oct 10th, 2006 at 1:08pm
 
Personally enlightenment always aroused visions of someone suddenly getting it and going 'oh yeah'.  And then never being the same again.
But in saying that how many people around are a testimony to this?
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this statement above made me smile as I thought of something..bong! I looked for couples all my life as an example if they were in love, or why they stayed together if they weren't. I decided these couples were out there, the ones who were really in love and stayed in love and I thought this must be what enlightenment is, to be and stay in love no matter what the obstacles. but I did not find too many examples, just a few maybes and some potentials.  but they must be there in the world somewhere. so I considered why can't I find them? I think for this reason: they are enjoying their matrimony so much they don't have any time to announce it or they don't need to announce it..they are too busy loving and taking care of each other, making happiness. ACIM says love is "to make happy."
or maybe they are enjoying the rewards of having worked hard on their own selves before having a successful relationship that lasted: or 3rd conjecture: we all have different paths we chose and there is nothing wrong with being a happy single person. theres nothing wrong with any of it if we have eternity to have experiences in and we appreciate each experience just for what it is.

yes, I see enlightenment as loving, unconditionally, or accepting what is in front of you as not wrong but a thing which can be leavened with PUL and love is a healing thing also; it heals the separation illusions that we are separate, when we share the commonality of surviving here in so many ways. and lets face it Smiley we are mortal in the body and immortal in spirit realm.
BabyDuck, ACIM, a course in miracles is a self study set of 3 books, a text, a workbook of affirmations and a teachers manual. it basically says we must remove the blocks to the awareness of love's presence, which mean we have so many belief systems which can be like blocks to what we really are inside.
and I like the contributions you have made here. I think you are a beautiful soul, and come to think of it, I think I am too! Grin  all of you, if I think I'm something dandy, then I tend to think you all are something dandy! wow! thats easy.

love to all, alysia
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Re: Enlightenment and the Myth of Purple Smoke
Reply #16 - Oct 10th, 2006 at 5:54pm
 
The idea that I'm trying to make is not so much that we nedd to make a decision and be done, as Spooky suggested, but that we nedd to open up by relaxing away the materiality of the world until an experience that there is "something more" occurs. That part requires a decision, but also requires us to accept participation, if only for a moment, in spirituality that extends beyond us. At the instant that we experience the spiritual reality, we've passed the point that "enlightenment switches on".  After that it's a matter of degree - which is why it seems to me to be similar to puberty - it switches on when we're kinda young and confused, but we learn what's actually happening somewhat later. In much the same way, we have a spiritual experience, and then we grow forward from it.

This is not somethng that can be reached by "thinking about it", although that may be useful in integrating the experience. It must be experienced, participated in, an activity that brings our insides to the outside spiritual world, because that changes our relationship to "Ultimate Reality", which is to say, the way we relate to God.

Traditionally one gets there by meditation, but past life regression, soul retrieval, spontaneous mediumship, hypnotic methods to visit the "spirit world" etc, and all the other means of developing spirituality are equal, including the use of meditative aids such as ganja (although this is dangerous). Afterwards, it's a matter of how we use the experience and how far we want to carry that aspect of our lives, all the way to complete absorption in God. There are a few experiential landmarks along the way, but they reinforce what has already been learned by the initial experience.

Anyway, my main specific point is that if one can do a soul retrieval, or other spiritual activity, even just one time, that's about all that's needed. After that, it's more of a matter of living well and not stumbling over our own feet. In particular, this is NOT an arcane idea that requires lifetimes to attain, and then only at great cost and suffering. In fact, it's darned easy! As just one option, Bruce's book 5 gves soul retrieval training. He also has a batch of articles etc. And there's lots of other folks out there who do hypnotic work with spiritual tricks and such.

The other point is that this is a normal part of growing up. If you are not yet spiritually aware, then you simply have not as yet fulfilled your potential. That's OK, it comes naturally if you allow it. But you can accelerate the process by intentionally involvinbg in activities that bring the personal experience of spiritual awareness. Maybe someday everyone will have spiritual maturity.

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