dave_a_mbs wrote on Oct 5th, 2006 at 1:53pm: The next level is samadhi, initially sarvastarka, a sense of total unity, yet involvement in something. The final stage is nirvastarka samadhi, in which there is only the One. If you proceed, you will arrive.
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...as you continue developing what Buddhists term "right Samadhi".PUL dave
Hi Dave,
Realize there is an infinity of models for describing the Simadhi journey and I wonder what is it specifically in your personal kundalini/Simadhi experience that suggests to you that I did not attain a "right Samadhi"?
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Amit Gotswami writes: Samadhi, in which the subject-object split is maintained, and thus some residual identiy with the physical body, savikalpa samadhi, is the more common samahdi experience. But there is also mention in the literature of the rare variety, nirvikalpa samadhi, in which there is no division of subject and object and one's identity completly merges with the bliss body, albeit temporarily.
Another scholar of Vedic practice has commented on my account:
I will use the Visuddhimagga by Bhadantarcariya Buddhaghosa, translated by Bhikkhu Syanamoli, A. Semage, Ceylon, 1964.
The first transcendent joy is called the first jhana in the Visuddhimagga system, but you seem to have gone beyond the first jhana. You may have gone beyond all the jhanas to the immaterial states.Tantric systems presuppose the meditlation states in the jhana and immaterial state sequence.
Since you still were involved with space, you would have been in the first immaterial state, the base consisting of boundless space (page 354-360). Very few people reach that point.
If you had gone further, you would have been in a state it sounds like you didn't reach, from your desciption: the base consisting of boundless consciousness. "And at this point it is said: 'By completely surmounting (samatikamma) the base consisting of boundless space, "unbounded consciousness". je emters into and dwells on the base consisting of boundless consciousness." page 361
If after that, you would have gone further yet, you would have been in the base consisting of nothingness. "And at this point it is said: 'By completely surmounting the base consisting of boundless consciousness, "There is nothing", he enters upon and dwells in the base consisting of nothingness." page 363 Obviously, this doesn't mean nothing-at-all. It is something subtle that is like nothing.
Of after that, you would have gone further yet, you would have been in the base consisting of neither perception nor non-perception. "And at this point it is said: 'By completely surmounting the base consisting of nothingness he enters upon and dwells in the base consisting of neither perception nor non-perception." p. 365
In the general Buddhist literature, it is said that if you remain in any of the immaterial states, you become one of the formless gods, and a higher god at each higher immaterial state. However, being in such bliss, a god no longer strives to advance to enlightenment, so eventually, after a long period of time, all such gods fall again.
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Actually I have abolutely have no desire while alive to repeat my journey or to attain some higher Samadhi state and my venture into Kundalini was simply an effort to establish an integrative communication with the God consciousness I experienced to express my thanks and exchange some level of the felt love. I have no ambition to become a sidhi or channel my chi or become enabled with psychic powers but merely plan to complete my life with concern for Gaia and doing the right thing.
Since I created a gallery of chakra symbols for online meditation
http://geocities.com/maya-gaia/chakframeset.html I feel some responsibility to emphasize the potential risks for anyone venturing into Kundalini practice.
http://kundalini.se/eng/stories.htmlBest Regards Ed