We are all here in the physical to learn lessons which will ultimately aid in the evolvement of our sprituality, whether we realise it or not. Before we are born our new spirit has already chosen it`s path so that we may learn these lessons and benefit from them.

However, there are some very harsh lessons to be learnt while we are here and this got me wondering as to whether there is retribution in the Afterlife, or not?

Take the scenario of a child abductor kidnapping a child, molesting/raping it then carrying out the ultimate act of murdering it. The perpetrator gets caught and is sent to gaol where he ultimately dies, and the parents know who he is. Now, they may believe in capital punishment and think that prison hasn`t been a good enough punishment for him.
When one of the child`s parents dies and passes into the Afterlife, where we are told what we wish/desire can be manifested, although they will be in a totally different BST to the abductor, can their spirit meet with the spirit of the abductor to extract further retribution for their crime? If so, how could this retribution be achieved?
Or, is the Afterlife one of total forgiveness and love even for such a horrendous crime?

What are you views on this, please?

roger   

Hi Roger-
I agree with Marilyn, but with a couple of clarifications. First, God is not a Big Nasty Guy in the Sky with a Cosmic Flyswatter looking for bad guys to abuse. That kind of retribution doesn't occur. The rtetribution that people describe is always self generated. At death, when abruptly faced with total and unlimited love, PUL with overflow, people who mess up in their past lives for petty reasons tend to feel infinite regret. As a result, they are often very hard on themselves, both in judgement, and also in election of a next life in which they suffer terribly in an effort to be worthy, so that God won't terminate them eternally. Of course, if they simply realized that they themselves are, and always have been, God, they'd be a little easier on themselves.

Doing past life work I hd a patient who recalled being one of a group of people who tried to play Robin Hood - stealing from a nasty land baron to deliver goods to improverished peasants. They were caught, put in a dungeon, chained to a wall and starved very slowly to death. They went together into heaven, where they were all alone. Then they came back to the world to discover lessons about not stealing etc. We expecrt much the same from Muslim martyrs, who will doubtless attain the heaven they expect, and then return to live in a world that has lessons available about killing and love. Given the usual pattern, realization of their nature, and that of God, comes after attachment to BSTs has expired.

In the "small", when we tell ourselves, "Oh oh. I really caused a prolem and I'm sorry, because I really love that person," we're getting the same lesson, and the self self-induced "retribution".  Looked at from the "large", it's like God has a headache and seeks to get rid of it by learning to love the painful part, while the painful part trembles in utter existentiasl dread of being unworthy.

In the 1960-1970 era, hippies who were nasty guys, but took LSD anyway, often got precisely this same kind of lesson as they struggled to bring their  selfish personalities into line with the infinity of God's love. Having gone to hell a few times, myself, I assure you that the experience is far too real. Scared hell out of me, though. Reminds me of going through a cosmic knothole. Glad I'm done with that for the moment.
dave

LOL, Rob! -  When I do therapy, I always feel that people with a sense of humor are essentially OK. I guess that it's hard to be pathological whle laughing. We impose so much heartless stuff on ourselves and we feel unworthy because we're still growing, guilty because we were ignorant in past years, fearful because we don't know how to fix everything. I think you've gotten to the core of it - take it lightly and trust to love.  Still, as others have told me, "When you're up to your as* in alligators, it's hard to remember that the initial idea was to drain the swamp."
-d

If it is all really an illusion, then there is nothing to have retribution for. If you are the perpetrator, that may sound like good news. If you are on the receiving end, it might take longer to comprehend. But if we are all interconnected, who is the perpetrator and who the victim?

If it is an illusion, then why try to make the illusion better? (Don't remind me I asked that next time I am in pain, physical or otherwise!). Wouldn't it make more sense to learn to get out of the illusion?

Thank you for this Juditha.

Love, Mairlyn

Thank you, Juditha,
for sharing that retribution is not needed here either.
love, bets

Nicely said LightR_on.

There is judgement, we judge ourselves and we are judge. If we bring the wrath of God upon us he will take away our personality and we will return to cosmic dust.

Roger nice question;
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As people become more and more filled with light and love, the gremlins will find they have no bodies to reincarnate into.  And they will dissolve into cosmic dust.

Love and peace.

Ah LightR_on your perception is so true.  Of course the Light will win! 

True Hearts might have to go into hiding a bit but you know when the Hand of God moves it moves fast and swift.  And even if this means destruction those with Light in their hearts have never anything to fear.

The astral region has being leeching of the earth for long now - it is time to get rid of the trailer trash by God's will.

Love to you and Godspeed.