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Reply #45 - Sep 20th, 2006 at 2:16pm
 
Caryn asks: People that do not go back to the Spark must then surely be not part of the Spark?
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I think they are a part of god too. its like that we have a choice. the Christ stands at the door and knocks. but we answer the door. I like this saying: "come, I will make you fishers of men."

I used to think in terms of fragments of god, were we all. I still think this sometimes but more often I feel myself merging into a person's mind with for instance in a retrieval area. I don't feel any different then from a person who has done selfish or evil deeds as they are still redeemable and can still choose again to answer the door.
to my understanding there is astral counterparts when sent to the light do become transmuted into their owner, from whom they were created, the higher self. apparently, we have this ability to spin off parts of ourselves which then in turn have a kind of self consciousness that they exist. these would be the type that hover over drunks at the bar..not very pretty, but it happens.  I don't think these lower entities know they have a choice until the choice is presented to them in a way that is acceptable.
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Reply #46 - Sep 20th, 2006 at 7:56pm
 
augoeideian wrote on Sep 6th, 2006 at 3:36am:
I must point out these verses in the Bible:

Matthew 24v40 - ... when the Son of Man comes.  At that time two men will be working in a field: one will be taken away, the other will be left behind.  Two women will be at a mill grinding meal: one will be taken away, the other will be left behind.  Be on your guard then because you do not know what day your Lord will come.

Luke 24v34 - On that night, I tell you, there will be two people sleeping in the same bed: one will be taken away, the other will be left behind.  Two women will be grinding corn together: one will be taken away, the other will be left behind.

It is in the Bible and cannot be ignored.

Bluejasn dare i say to your words the Jewish people do not believe in the afterlife; the Tribe of Israel is the afterlife.  Gentiles are loved by God through adoption.


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"......Evil is the great illusion-creation of all mankind. Religious thought of all ages has
seldom offered more than a stumbling solution to this enigma, for nearly all religions offer a kindly and loving God who yet has created evil and is tempting man with it. Now, it is
obvious that there is nothing kindly or loving about a God who visits disease and pain and
poverty and suffering upon his children, any more than there is anything beneficent about
a diety who creates evil so that he can burn in hell those he manages to temp with it. The
very plain fact is manifest. 'If God is a God of love, He did not create evil and hell!'

And so with the entire hideous conception of the devil and hell. If God created the devil
and hell, He would have to know that He was going to send some of His children there,
and it even follows that He would have a pretty good idea who they would be. So that
would give us a God who created the temptation, who created persons unable to resist
it, and who precondemned them to an eternal residence in the furnaces of Satan and hell.

It is ridiculous, of course, yet the extremely important point is this: as far as man's
earthly life is concerned, if he believes in hell and the devil, he suffers all the tortures
they offer each time he falls from what his own mind and belief system considers to be
grace.

All these things man creates into reality in his life on Earth, evil, poverty, hell and the
devil, but God has nothing to do with them!

Now we must understand what God is. God is obviously all wisdom and all knowledge.
Since He knows everything, He never has any problems. There are never any questions
to answer, nor goals to achieve; there is never knowledge to be gained, nor experience
to be had. Every movement to God is automatically creation. Somehow mankind has
insisted upon devising a God with a whole set of moral attributes, but since moral
implies conflict with immoral, God could not possibly be either. He could not possibly be
put in the position of wrestling, Himself, with good and evil and creating that which for
the moment gained the upper hand. It has to be understood that God only creates, and He
creates without the knowledge of good and evil. It has to be understood that each
being creates through thought. Morally, the world-conscious human being knows right
and wrong and good and evil, therefore he creates them. He creates them by his own
thought and belief systems. He. We. All of us. Not God!

For the act of creation in this life is accomplished by the Conscious Mind acting on the
Subconscious mind, and the Universal Subconscious Mind is the mind of God.

Mankind will never be able to accept an all-loving and just God who created evil. Mankind
has never been able to reconcile such a God with the patent fact disease and suffering
fall like rain on the just and unjust. The thinking mind is emotionally torn to bits even
dwelling on such an idea. But we need not think of it any further, for it can be proven
that suffering and evil of every kind are created by man and man alone.
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Re: The rapture
Reply #47 - Sep 21st, 2006 at 3:16am
 
Alysia, i agree with what you said.  And Gman i totally agree.

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Reply #48 - Sep 21st, 2006 at 4:33am
 
Caryn, sometimes I check to see if we are in the rapture now. I don't think we can say any of us missed the boat..maybe this forum is a boat!... and we are still sailing along but its nice to be together with friends. sending good vibes so we can have smooth sailing weather and ride the rip tides too. love, alysia
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Reply #49 - Sep 21st, 2006 at 8:35am
 
Thanks for your kind words Alysia  Smiley
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