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Reply #15 - Aug 16th, 2006 at 7:14am
 
Thanks Irene i have looked at both.

Gosh the Monroe Institute looks like a lovely place .. it looks like its in the Swiss Alps!  Is that Virginia .. wow.

Interesting further information on the hemisync on the website (nice website btw) you will have to excuse my cautious nature ... i'm still not 100% convinced .. for example if i need to relax i take a long walk in nature and smell the flowers and feel the air in my hair lol.

But im not expecting its your job to have to convince me though .. its something i must figure out for myself ... i am enjoying the discussion though.

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Reply #16 - Aug 16th, 2006 at 1:57pm
 
It was fun to listen to the first tape in a series made by Bob Monroe. Yes it really was only tapes then. One of a series of six. I used earphones. There was a demonstration of hemisync. First one tone was played in one ear and then another tone was played in the other ear. They were definitely two distinct tones. Then both tones were played simultaneously, there was a second when I think I heard both tones, and then all I could discern was one tone, different pitch than the other two...do they pulse also? I can't remember. But I could confirm it was a synthesis of the two tones by sequentially removing either the left or right earphone, which got me back to one of the original tones. The synthesis took place in my head! wow.

Different topic. Last week I was listening to a drummer talk about the ceremonies in Haiti or in Africa where people get possessed. The drummer was playing a djembe and talking about polyrhythms. We were talking about 12/8 time. Sometimes it sounds like 1-2-3-4 and sometimes the triplets predominate. You think you are hearing a different rhythm but it is really the same hand motions. So the drummer was saying that there was a point where the lead drummer in the ceremony seemed to shift the emphasis ...I'll over simplify here....from the 4 count to the 3 count. And that would be the point at which people seemed to experience possession. It is hard to not think that the drummers get entrained to what the drums are playing and that some people experience the shift as a change in conciousness. Maybe drums are some forerunner of binaural beats.

Having said that I feel compelled to explain to augoeideian that the TMI tapes do NOT en-trance you and you can turn them off at any point (except I usually fall asleep).


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Reply #17 - Aug 16th, 2006 at 2:49pm
 
We are all just one waveform responding to another.  Drumming produces audible sound waves with frequencies.  So does any type of music and hemisync.  Our five senses can be directed to send us to a different conscious plane.

Can anyone doubt that when you smell a certain food or fragrance it "takes you back."  Suddenly, in your mind's eye, you see your childhood association with that smell - often a good warm feeling. 

In this way, there is no magic to hemisync.  All of the five senses can be used to focus our consciousness on one thing or another.


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Reply #18 - Aug 17th, 2006 at 1:58am
 
I heard myself talking to a group of people out there. I said to them just as if I knew what I was talking about "in my next life I will write a book how the human being is nothing more than alternating current."

nobody argued with me..the afterlife must be a nice place Smiley  as I think about sound and balance and duality and alternating current, I know to have electric light we must have alternating current in a wire. Suppose electricity is a symbolic form of the light that the NDE person sees? Further, suppose the Light is intelligent. I assume this current has a hum sound. I assume there is much sound in the grid. looking at the brain it has an electrical neuron charge when different levels of thought are produced. alpha, beta, theta, delta and sub definitions as well of the current of thought.
suppose the heart and  the mind were in perfect balance? is this what hemi sync might help us do? or to get the "feel" of being perfectly in sync with the two hemispheres of the brain which must learn to work together.
each focus level as described by TMI can be reached from within by intention and by balancing that intention through the heart, utilizing PUL ..all heart with no mind is the doormat, all mind with no heart is the ruthless. there must be balance.

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Reply #19 - Aug 17th, 2006 at 5:37am
 
Thanks for the further information .. Lucy not trance is a good description then.
Matthew's comment does make a lot of sense (good pun!) and again reminds me of the music of the spheres.

I can understand in today's world where our society is so demanding and pretty awful for the spirit really (i think) how we need to break down through barriers and mis-conceptions and labels just to find ourselves .. without relying on drugs or drink.

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Reply #20 - Aug 20th, 2006 at 2:16pm
 
Hi Guys,

I LOVE talking about hemi-sync!  Matthews’s description on how the tapes work is very complete, Thanx.  When I listen to the tapes, I find that my inner being becomes very relaxed and I am more able to let intrusive thoughts of the day go.  I’ve been using them primarily for sleep since the late 90’s and they have traveled with me through many changes and stressful times these past 8 years.  The most recent was my brush with death through Valley Fever.  I suspect that because of them and the level they taught me to be comfortable in, I was able to keep a perspective on my illness and to not become afraid.

I do need to mention that I primarily work with the tapes because my CD players keep breaking and that I use the hemi-sync sounds for entraining my consciousness to that deep level of relaxation because I was lousy mediator.  But because of the tapes, I’m becoming better.  I also want to mention that in reading one of the books on hemi-sync that Monroe made it clear that the hemi-sync sounds produced in the institutes labs are no different than the various sounds that surround us.  It is just that he has just narrowed certain sounds down for us to use at our convenience when we have some quiet time and want to reach a certain level of consciousness for inner work or need to fill a room with sound to have the individuals there focus on the task at hand.  I seem to remember an example was given of irritating sounds that leave a person drained like certain stages of take-off when in a plane as a negative sound.  Whereas the hemi-sync tapes for most people leave them relaxed, energized, focused, etc.

The part that I most trust about Monroe’s hemi-sync tapes is that they are constructed to train an individual to recall the sensation of “floating?” when not listening to the tape. So it’s not a case where you have to become dependant on having a tape and recorder with you at all times or that you are to keep buying tapes because with little practice or recall you are able to recapture the feeling.  I suspect that it’s because of this ability to recognize and alter consciousness taught to me through use of the tapes that I was able to follow Bruce’s retrieval exercises with success and respond appropriately during my recent coma experience.

Again I want to say that for most individuals who can shift gears and alter consciousness through mediation, hypnosis, or by using other deep relaxation methods, the tapes would be an extra fun thing.  But for old hyper me, the hemi-sync tapes did the trick and continue to do so, sometimes merely by my remembering the feeling the give me.  Also I want to mention that I probably have about 70 tapes or CDs at this time, have listened to most of them but really only rely on about 2 or 3 when I need that extra boost to tame the wild horses in my mind.

Hope this helps, Love to all, Jean  Kiss            
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Reply #21 - Aug 20th, 2006 at 5:42pm
 
Interesting post, Doc. I think that this kind of discussion about approaches, mind set, tools, and techniques is especially valuable.  As with all the psycho-spiritual techniques attempted over the ages, those that are effective need to be publicized for the rest of us. Monroe Inst and hemi-synch impresses me.

In my clinical practice I've tried to develop a large number of plain vanilla hypnotic tapes, CDs and such, and have pretty well lost faith in them as a generic technique. They work well only when the listeners have been prepared by trancework beforehand. "As you are emerging from trance the CD I give you is gaining the power to put you back there, just as fast as you desire." So if the CD requires prior trancework, I wondered why bother with a CD? As a result, for a lot of us who get Cheap Charley's "Instant Trance" CD, the only benefit is that Charley gets a little richer, while we get frustrated. The missing ingredient is a prior trance level introduction to empower them.

Binaural methods engage the mind differently, and are more effective. Monroe seems to have a useful method, perhaps because it cannot be readily accessed by the everyday conscious mind due to the deep level of intermediate function.  It seems likely that an equivalent process might be developed for vision as well, mixing fragmentary elements to obtain a whole. The next level of this technology could possibly be a combined multiple level and multiple modality approach intended to involve some of the other deep structures of mental function.  There's a huge amount of knowledge associated with gestalt psychology that has sort of crept around the edges of these ideas, but to my knowledge, has never really gotten involved with the potentialities available by working with these concepts. Monroe's hemi synch might be the beginning of a new approach to subconscious access in which multiple types of deep structure are selectively engaged through externals.  This would make a fascinating career path for a budding psychologist with an interest in exotic transpersonal states. -

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