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george stone
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We will not remember
Aug 2nd, 2006 at 1:45pm
 
I was always afried of dieing,untill I heard a voice say,its just like going to sleep at night and waking up in the morning.I dont think we will remember being in the spirit world after we die.These are onlyl my thoughts,and why I think we will not remember is I for one can not remember being there before I was borne.This reminds me of most of our dreams we have that we will not remember when we wake from sleep.All is taken from us so that we not know about the life we are living right now.Behold I make everything new.What are your thoughts on this.George
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Reply #1 - Aug 2nd, 2006 at 2:55pm
 
George:

I don't believe the voice you heard was trying to tell you that you'll forget everything when you die. It just wanted to let you know that it would be a smooth transistion, and you'll wake up to who you really are. Not just some mere body based person.

We tend forget what it was like before we were born into this World, because ordinarilly it would defeat the purpose of incarnating into the physical if we remembered everything.

Just think of all of the ways in which people forget things. Selective memory is a possibility even if the selection process is unconscious (repressed memories). With this in mind, certainly it is possible for our higher selves to intentionally forget certain things when we incarnate.
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Reply #2 - Aug 2nd, 2006 at 9:49pm
 
I'm inclined to agree, George. "Behold I make everything new" is to the point.

But there seems to be more. In between one body falling off and putting another one on we go through a sort of spiritual knothole. Ecclesiates said that when we stand before God all our best works are "as filthy rags". Meditators who are accustomed to deep work occasionally make some kind of (often trivial) error. Then they go through torments appropriate to the damned while they pray for forgiveness, salvation, liberation from more mistakes, and a few dozen other ways to fix things so that they will not recur. 

Actually, this is the same as Bruce doing a rescue on some poor soul that's gotten stuck in a self-delusional attachment, except that t's far more emphatic when we do it ourselves.

The result is that the person who is reborn is only partly like the one who died. The changes involve morls, values, attitudes, attachments to needs and drives and so on. The history of the dead self still remains, since that's how we get to wherever we are, but generally, only those moments that strongly stood out can be recovered. Recovery is always greater when the person has changed less, and is usually quite substantial when the death resulted in attachment to the mundane levels of reality due to intense fear, hatred or desire.

I'd guess that by the time you are advanced enough to think about such things you are probably pretty well liberated, in which case I agree. Experience with a great many past life regressions supports your idea that we have very little recall - at least for people of that advanced level.

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Reply #3 - Aug 2nd, 2006 at 9:54pm
 
Not too sure about this..I DO have some memories, vague, yes, but memories, nonetheless..

Little snippets, like how I died last time.

As to memories in spirit between lives..I've been searching for that..
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