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Jul 31st, 2006 at 7:50pm
 
i am glad i read the site so i have names for the places i have been going.  i had names for them to, but couldn't accurately distinguish the layers.  i used to call it "the land of no lies" because everything is written right on peoples bodies and its all obvious.

i have a problem that i cant seem to extricate myself from, so perhaps someone will have some insight. 

my brain doesn't really work correctly- it causes episodes of major depression often.  i have tried all sorts of solutions, but they were not solutions.  the problem is i spend so much time not in the earth dimension, that i feel i have work to do there and none to do here.  obviously that must be wrong, right?  but i cant get my brain to reconcile it.  you see, people are sometimes so mean.  maybe i make them mean, or think they are mean, i dont know.  but i cant help thinking that this isnt the world.  ive tried to fix my attitude and my brain, but it always comes back.  i always end up wanting to renegotiate my contract.  i dont even really know what i expect anyone to say about this.  ive asked everyone in the higher dimensions about it and have gotten a mixed response.

the absolute worst thing of all is that no one ever believes me.  especially doctors- they say i am hallucinating.  it just makes me not want to be here.
i hope this post isnt too crazy and that it doesn't bug anyone.  theres just no one else i could talk to about it.
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Reply #1 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 8:21pm
 
Hi greenwater,

Your post makes perfect sense to me...

It can be so difficult at times to be "less happy" than you think you "should" be here in this "reality" we consider our material world.  I can relate perfectly to your desire to spend a lot of time in the other realms.  However, there is much beauty here in this world too and I think it is very important to establish connections that are meaningful and lasting with other people here on the earth, with the beauty, laughter, hope and love that are some of the gifts you can find here.  This life has so much to teach each of us.

So, here you are on this forum with many like-minded souls. You have my love, here at this moment, my understanding, and my hope that you can find everything for which you search. We are all searching in life and, to my way of understanding, that is, essentially, our purpose....to search, to learn, to love...

Please share with us all that you find in your other realms, and share your heart and your thoughts here as well. There are many here who are immensely interested in what you have to say, whether or not they reply to you directly.  In any case, there are a group of explorers here much like you in many ways, I'm sure, and I, as well as others who will read your posts, wish you welcome.

much love to you, blink
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Reply #2 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 8:45pm
 
i could write encyclopedias of all that i witnessed on the plane.  i feel like it would be too much to bombard people with. for instance the time i went to the white aliens on the planet with a mercury shield, and they were looking for the 'male breast' and they had a human there on the table.  everything there was white and shiny silver.  the mercury shield protected them from rays.

or the other time when i invoked the archangel michael, because i had an important question, and all over the fourth dimension (as i called it) i put his name, and i turned the lights out in the whole city and wrote his name in light on the sidewalk, and lo and behold, up from the subway tunnel stairs he walked.  surely a lower frequency representation.  and i wanted to ask him if i could be in his army in the end of days.  and i saw that i wouldnt be, but i was standing with a scroll among lots of others, and that was my job.  everything was white.  i made a painting of him coming up from the subway.  it wasnt michael but one of his forms.  my sister had to have the painting so eventually i gave it to her.

this is the kind of stuff i get to do.  thousands of scenes, people, places.  all sorts of good info- on transportation, especially.  i know how to get around.
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Reply #3 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 9:37pm
 
Greenwater,

I like your Michael story. Sounds like something I would do, write their name everywhere to get their attention. And I like his answer. You might be specializing as a Keeper of Records or an Historian. We all have roles to play in the Earth school.

I find there are very few people locally I can talk to about my other world
experiences. It's not even that people might think I'm a little bit out there,
it's just that they simply can't relate. They are understandably skeptical.

I, too, have suffered from depression since college. It's genetic as it runs
in my family. One thing, though, is that my spiritual exploration has made me
happier or at least more able to handle Here. I have a healthy perspective on the negativity and illusion here. And I know there is something inside myself that can survive anything thrown at it.

Nothing beats a trip to the mental plane, but then after a few minutes of bliss, I like coming back and enjoying creation here, too. There's a lot of work to be done in the realm of time and space - and an eternity to enjoy the other stuff.

-mike
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Reply #4 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 10:21pm
 
Hi Greenwater,

First, you are not alone in how you feel.  This is important.  There may be a practical side to maake the most out of your current life and still pursue the "higher planes."  Part of this is up to you.  You don't state how old you are, or what if any job you have.  However, I believe that you have an artistic soul - from your description.  A career that let you explore this might help remove some, but not all of the reality based hum drum responsibilities in C1. 

We are quite literally our thoughts, and we should therefore cultivate our thoughts toward finer things like love and beauty.  Blink alluded to this.  There is much beauty in your physical world too.  Seek it, immerse yourself in it.  Happiness is possible if you allow yourself to experience it.  I'm a physician, and well aware of the neurochemical and genetic predisposition toward depression.  However, I have come to believe in the human soul.  As such, I believe that recurrent depression comes from a spiritual imbalance, or unreasonable expectations that we put on ourselves (as well as society putting it on us).  Once we are familiar with our connection with spirit, with our ability to love, and be loved, with our subtle but definite ability to impress intention on our subconscious connection with the universe, things begin to go our way.  We become "captains of our own ships," instead of hapless sailors tossed on a tempest sea. 

So take heart.  You can speak your mind here, and get support.  Never think of yourself as one buffeted about by life;  it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.  There are solutions for the sorrow of which you speak.

Best to you,

Matthew
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Reply #5 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 11:59pm
 
welcome to the forum greenwater, please feel free to say anything you wish to share. my first thought when you described Archangel Michael was that you are stationed here as a portal among many others to help out with the shift in consciousness and its a lonely area, but I feel you wanted to help out during this time. the portal basically just lets the light into the earth, grounding it wherever they are as an energy. they don't get rewarded for it though because it was a choice of their own.
I believe all portals have like a tracking device and the depression will lift in time as they monitor your progress in "waking up." I think you are with archangel Michaels wave and you received this info almost too soon to be able to assimilate it into your belief system so you might be suffering crash symptoms...you may have to read some of the literature here to understand what a belief system crash is.  some people are going to think I'm crazy and you are crazy, but hey, I've always been crazy but its kept me from going insane (a song for you, lol)

I don't think being nuts is genetic btw. never blame the body. its just a bunch of cells and dna, and cells and dna can be changed by the mind powers and the grace of our higher selves. hang in, it gets better...really!!!

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Reply #6 - Aug 1st, 2006 at 1:11am
 
welcome to the forum.  i just joined too.  Smiley

i hope u have a beautiful time here.

it is a blessed place.Smiley

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Reply #7 - Aug 1st, 2006 at 1:38am
 
Welcome Greenwater,

This is a loving and knowledgeable forum and I feel you will get help here. I like what Mendel said and also Doc M, well everyone. Wink  I too have had bouts of depression since I was about 25. I think there are a lot of us.

Blessings, Mairlyn Wink
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Welcome afterl. So happy to see new members.

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Reply #9 - Aug 1st, 2006 at 3:29pm
 
Hello Greenwater:

You mentioned Michael's Army. I'm not certain why you mentioned this. Perhaps you believe the book of Revelations is about something that is going to happen. When I recently read Revelations it seemed clear that it pertained to the time in which it was written.  A lot of Biblical scholars agree with this viewpoint. If you consider all of the problems Christians had during the time period in which it was written, it is hard to figure why they would write about something so far in the future. 666 was Nero Caesar's number.

Here's a really good article that supports what I just wrote.

http://www.reformed.org/eschaton/beast.html


 
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Reply #10 - Aug 1st, 2006 at 5:31pm
 
thank u so much for the warm welcome Marilyn.

Greenwater - i sent you a private message with some personal thoughts on AA Michael.

love, after
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Reply #11 - Aug 1st, 2006 at 7:03pm
 
I wonder if genetics is the cause of depression.

Dr. John Sarno found that many physical ailments such as back pain have psychological origins rather than physical origins. For example, studies have been done which show that many people have herniated discs but don't experience back pain, while many people don't have herniated discs but do experience back pain.

I used to have lower back, upper back and neck pain that didn't go away until I got rid of the psychological issues that caused my energy to be blocked and produce pain. I know of people who couldn't get rid of their back pain through things such as drugs, surgery and physical therapy, but did get rid of it when they dealt with the psychological causes.

Dr. Sarno found that such a mind body connection can also be found when it comes to things such as depression.

I believe that in western medicine there is way too much emphasis on physical diagnosis, and not near enough emphasis on psychological diagnosis. Things such as drugs and cortisone shots go after the symptoms, not the cause.

Of course it might be hard to get the medical community to change their approach in mass, because many doctors "along" with their patients don't want to deal with psyschological issues. It is much easier and simpler to pop a pill, do physical therapy, or even get surgery; the later when it comes to people who just don't want to look at certain psychological issues.

Some people might argue the genetic viewpoint because some of their family members also experience depression.  Is there always such a correspondence? Are there people who suffer depression who don't have immediate family members who also suffer depression? Are there people who don't suffer depression who do have immediate family members who suffer depression?  Is it possible that siblings sometimes experience depression because they grew up in the same negative environment, or took on some of the psychological tendencies of their depressed parent or parents?

It is important to not put the cart before the horse. Are the polypeptides that relate to depression produced without a psychological cue, or with a psychological cue, similar to how fear is produced when circumstances or beliefs cause us to be afraid? Sometimes 24/7.


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Reply #12 - Aug 2nd, 2006 at 2:22am
 
If you are wondering about the body. mind connection to illness, try Louise Hay's book "you can heal your body"
You can see what is happening at an emotional level by reading about each physical ailment and reading with an honest and open mind will give you an insight into what you can do to help yourself to improve pain
some eg's would be breast pain - not nuturing yourself=too busy nurturing others
foot pain can be afraid of moving forward in life
lower back pain is often about family issues and money issues
It is a wonderful insight into how we bring the emotional pain into the physical
Cotisone shots can damage connective tissue permantly and while only some patients get relief, the long term problems are usually overlooked. I always tell me clients to get the facts on any medication or research procedures before going for them. Trouble is, most people don't realise that there alternatives. the negative is never widely advertised for obvious reasons

any way, a big welcome to all the newbies
love to all
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Reply #13 - Aug 2nd, 2006 at 2:59pm
 
Cathy B:

I know a person who got rid of sciatica he had for years through psychological means, and he was a Louise Haye fan. I haven't read her.
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Reply #14 - Aug 2nd, 2006 at 9:23pm
 
Hi greenwater,
to be in two worlds, "out there" and here, is causing me problems too sometimes. Related to the things to explore there, the actions that are possible there, the world here can be perceived as boring, exhausting and mean. That's why I'm busy to explore over there to understand why I'm here in the physical. I've got many bits and pieces, and they make me stay here.

What I suggest is to try to find personal helpers over there. Persons/beings who are there especially for you. Your personal guides, or if you prefer, guardian angel(s).
Similar to this, try to find your soul group, the group of people you have a bond with in the nonphysical. To find such people in the physical may be possible, but informations about it, as far as I know, are not always permitted to be given to you, as well as informations about details of your future. My guides have repeatedly said to me that I must formulate what I want to, then they can help to perform it, otherwise not, they are not willing or allowed to want me to do something. If you meet someone over there who is behaving like wanting you to act after his/her will without that you resonate with it, then it's no guide.
Try to find something like your real home, your higher self.
So, in general, start or continue to be proactive in the "4th dimension", that means seek for experiences which you can understand and which would help you to understand why you're here.
Don't let yourself put under pressure because you "function not in the right way" in the physical. I know from personal experience that people can judge you quite badly, but finally the hardest judge am I for myself. When I let them put me down. When I allow myself to feel guilty. When I permit again negative thoughts. Many people here have told the great possibilities and effects of positive thoughts.
Oh and, try to receive, feel pure unconditional love. When you're out there the next time, ask for someone to radiate it to you. Maybe you must practice a bit, many people must, me included, but it is possible to get better at it. You are the most important one, don't forget it, it's true.

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