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Reply #15 - Jul 26th, 2006 at 3:42am
 
Hi betson, newwayknight and juditha, and everyone  Smiley

First Bets i'd like to reply to your excellent ponderings from my understanding that i have pondered for long now.  The way i see it;

Everything around us and what happens to us in the physical dimension is a metaphor of Us.  We may take circumstances at face value or we may look for the symbolism of the meaning in a circumstance.  It depends on our perception which may be likened to a musical scale - low note or high note.

In relation to Christ we may perceive Jesus to have been a man, and most admit not just an ordinary man, who came to earth with a message.  This is well and good in a metaphor resonating on a lower note; although lower is not the correct term it is more on a common note. In this case he is on the outside of us as a seperate entity and it is in this commoness of his seperation from us that relies on the metaphor of the gospels to understand him. Upon saying that the gospels may be perceived on different levels.

Or through - attainment of thought - we perceive the Christ to be in us.  Not as a seperate entity apart from us but perceiving that Christ lives in our very blood.

The metaphor for this will be different from the surface gospel metaphor.  The metaphor for the Christ within is The Cross of Light.  The metaphor for the Christ without is the Wooden Cross.

The writings of the Two Children symbolises the act of taking the Christ without and bringing him within: the event that took place in the Temple (our body)- the merging of the Two Jesus Children is a metaphor for this translation of the very atoms within our blood.

Collective consciousness may perceive Christ to have died on a wooden cross, which really is ourselves on the wooden cross .. or collective consciousness may perceive Christ to be the cross of light within ourselves.

This is true evolution that has many dimensions in perception .. from perceiving in one dimension, right up to our present eight dimension perception that may be attained.  

Does this make sense to you bets? Please do not think that i am saying to people that the Christ they perceive is 'incorrect' this i would not say at all and is not true.  All perception of Christ is sacred and the Joy is Christ is being perceived no matter what dimension.

i welcome all thoughts on this.

My love
Caryn
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Reply #16 - Jul 26th, 2006 at 5:05am
 
Newwayknight your Love for Christ fills me with joy and strength - thank you.
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Reply #17 - Jul 26th, 2006 at 10:42am
 
Caryn and Betson,
Thanks so much for your fresh insights (and link).  You leave me with a lot to ponder.

Steve,
I agree with you about the scholar thing.  About the best they can do is point out what we don't know.   And that can be useful but depressing.  In this day and age we have elctronic printing presses, Radio, TV, Internet, etc.  If there are any enlightened or elevated souls in the world we can know almost everything about them and learn directly from them without having to meet them.  This didn't exist 2000 years ago and therefore, so much knowledge and information was lost via the "oral tradition". 

Also, I know you're attracted to this board for a reason and I'm hoping that is because of a quest for afterlife knowledge through experience.  I look forward to hearing about your OBE's and the info you bring back from the other side.  I'm sure it will be awesome!  God's speed bro.  Same to you Juditha.

Rick
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Reply #18 - Jul 26th, 2006 at 11:14am
 
A giant hug to you all !!  (11 a m, Wed.)
Reading your words on this thread thru really got to me and I thank you all so much!  I've heard some of these as concepts but they never struck home as  they have now.  I'd like to write thank you in lights or birdlike letters that soar--these black lined letters don't seem adequate. Thank You!
Love, bets

Cosmic, my apologies. I didn't really see the potential in your question this time, but you really do inspire the best, and for the rest of us you help drag us up over the cliffside!
PUL to you all!
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Reply #19 - Jul 26th, 2006 at 11:30am
 
Thanks for your kind words bets.

PUL,
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Reply #20 - Jul 26th, 2006 at 4:30pm
 
Hi Augoeideian and Rob and Juditha,


Augoeidian,

thank you very much for the kind response.  I think you are in tune about the physical and the mystical, with the wooden cross and the Cross of Light within us. 


Rob,

yes, it is true that in the age of Reality TV we tend to want to get every last detail on everything.  I enjoy theology and scholarship, and definitely respect the work of scholars and read them, but every once in a while I have to take a step back and remind myself that it boils down to a very simple, basic 2 things that anyone, scholar or not, can easily remember.  Sometimes I fear we try to make things too complicated, even though it is certainly a worthy passion to have intellectual and philosophical pursuits.

I am definitely hoping to be graced with some experiential moments, and may have already taken a small step...I posted a recent lucid dream on Linn's board that Bob suggested I should post there, under the Dreams section.  It may be a small step, but an encouraging one.

Juditha,

thanks as always for the encouragement.
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Reply #21 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 3:43am
 
Hi everyone - hope you all well 

Thanks for the messages, i just love life with all its complications, simplicities, ups and down, joys and tears and best part of life is people  Smiley

Lots of love to this site and everyone here.
Caryn
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