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Re: Dieing and not knowing you are dead
Reply #15 - Jul 16th, 2006 at 1:30pm
 
I remember reading this story above. I had dream about a house I later moved into also..it even had the same package of toothbrushes in the drawer I opened that I would purchase. this was a year before I moved there.

these women Rob talks of could be assigned to him..they could be protectors of him, they could be former family members, former spouses from other times, they could be protecting him from just any body coming into his room and bothering him. they could be former mothers of him from other lives, like disc members change roles all the time.

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Reply #16 - Jul 16th, 2006 at 3:49pm
 
Eggshellseas and Augoeideian ,

“I always thought ghosts look the way they do becuase things are at a faster rate of speed where they are or slower being its a ghost that decided to stick around. Its heaven thats at a faster rate I think.”

In my observation, how nonphysical people appear depends on your abilities to perceive and how they choose to present themselves. They may or may not be aware that they can present themselves differently. I have and continue to encounter these types:

1) Those who no longer have a physical body and haven’t changed their focus from physical existence. These are stuck people or those I am assisting with moving on. These are your garden variety ‘ghosts.’ I rarely physically see them, except at times when their energy cranks up for a particular reason. There have been a couple of exceptions when they appeared as your stereotypical ‘ghost’ to get my attention. They were not rude about how they did this. I almost always mostly just sense them as a specific presence. Sometimes I sense them in detail. Usually it’s a specific presence that I sense (clairsentience) combined with limited, but developing, clairvoyant perception. Occasionally I’ll her them say something (clairaudience).

2) My main guide and other people’s guides. Mine has shown herself in a variety of ways, from intelligently moving shadow-ether-like whatever to lots of sparkling little lights. Mine has also shown herself as a physical person (in color, too) but not a full figure, just enough for just long enough to get my attention to remind me of her presence for a particular reason. Other people’s guides have, rarely, gotten my attention because they know they can, and want who I’m with to know they are there. Usually, though, guides are difficult for me to pick up. They seem to prefer to keep a very low profile.

3) Rarely, I get someone who has been through Focus 27 and all that. They are much like guides, I think, in that they manifest themselves for a particular reason.

4) A living person who is deliberately OBEing. I have trouble picking up on these people too.

5) The higher self of a living person not deliberately OBEing. This gets interesting. I get these visitations because of an existing or pending relationship with someone.

6) Dark entities and other hostiles. I’ve encountered four. There’s no mistaking what they are. When they move in front of you to force you to walk through them and when their energy gives you the absolute creeps, when the hair on the back of your neck and head stands up, that’s a DE or hostile, at least for me because the other types don’t affect me.

I rely on my communication with guidance for some of the specific information I get and with help in distinguishing who is who.

So, as you can see, how a nonphysical appears and why they are appearing to someone can vary.

Love,
Rob

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Reply #17 - Jul 16th, 2006 at 8:47pm
 
Rob_Roy wrote on Jul 16th, 2006 at 3:49pm:
Eggshellseas and Augoeideian ,

“I always thought ghosts look the way they do becuase things are at a faster rate of speed where they are or slower being its a ghost that decided to stick around. Its heaven thats at a faster rate I think.”

In my observation, how nonphysical people appear depends on your abilities to perceive and how they choose to present themselves. They may or may not be aware that they can present themselves differently. I have and continue to encounter these types:

1) Those who no longer have a physical body and haven’t changed their focus from physical existence. These are stuck people or those I am assisting with moving on. These are your garden variety ‘ghosts.’ I rarely physically see them, except at times when their energy cranks up for a particular reason. There have been a couple of exceptions when they appeared as your stereotypical ‘ghost’ to get my attention. They were not rude about how they did this. I almost always mostly just sense them as a specific presence. Sometimes I sense them in detail. Usually it’s a specific presence that I sense (clairsentience) combined with limited, but developing, clairvoyant perception. Occasionally I’ll her them say something (clairaudience).

2) My main guide and other people’s guides. Mine has shown herself in a variety of ways, from intelligently moving shadow-ether-like whatever to lots of sparkling little lights. Mine has also shown herself as a physical person (in color, too) but not a full figure, just enough for just long enough to get my attention to remind me of her presence for a particular reason. Other people’s guides have, rarely, gotten my attention because they know they can, and want who I’m with to know they are there. Usually, though, guides are difficult for me to pick up. They seem to prefer to keep a very low profile.

3) Rarely, I get someone who has been through Focus 27 and all that. They are much like guides, I think, in that they manifest themselves for a particular reason.

4) A living person who is deliberately OBEing. I have trouble picking up on these people too.

5) The higher self of a living person not deliberately OBEing. This gets interesting. I get these visitations because of an existing or pending relationship with someone.

6) Dark entities and other hostiles. I’ve encountered four. There’s no mistaking what they are. When they move in front of you to force you to walk through them and when their energy gives you the absolute creeps, when the hair on the back of your neck and head stands up, that’s a DE or hostile, at least for me because the other types don’t affect me.

I rely on my communication with guidance for some of the specific information I get and with help in distinguishing who is who.

So, as you can see, how a nonphysical appears and why they are appearing to someone can vary.

Love,
Rob



tell me more about This OBE is this out of body experience? When someone (a living person) If you have trouble picking up on them is that because you don't see them? Or do you ever simply feel that they are around? Because I sense often that living people are around me that I can't see.
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Reply #18 - Jul 17th, 2006 at 4:09am
 
Yes,  Rob_Roy your Awareness is powerful and it is this Awareness that is a Knowing. A very undefined sense as yet to be trusted upon by most people in general (not saying anyone here the world at large)

Alysia yes a piece that may fit.

What makes me think they are not dead though, is the glaring thing : The Child.

Now ... newwayknight .. could help here.  He has expressed his Love for his passion and his passion so happens to be within the Catholic church.  The one thing the Catholic religion got right and that was the burial ritual of a child.  This ceremony is different from the ceremony accorded to adults.
Children by pass a certain part that they do not need to send them off and the Catholic faith has kept this ritual correct.

I hope that newwayknight may confirm this as i have learnt this from another source outside of the Catholic faith.

A child soul/spirit would not be hanging around the earth plane.  This is my opinion.

Also, maybe Marilyn could add from her experience in Spirits and her knowledge on 'retrivals'. 
lol .. crossing legs Marilyn!

My love to everyone  Smiley

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Reply #19 - Jul 17th, 2006 at 10:07am
 
one more thing the Catholics got right is confessionals. it frees the soul to look in the direction to forgive debts others have against them. a very powerful prayer is forgive them, for they know not what they do.

all religion is not completely corrupted..as I thought.  love, alysia
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