Greetings, all,
I was wearing white at that time, but had thought I was too tired to attend and would let the PEGathering slide. So the white was C1 true, but a nightgown.  

So Ryan, here's another example I cannot explain---Mair got a hit on basic appearance, but I didn't intend to be there.  ?!  Experience will sort it out eventually, I guess.
Bets

Hi Mairlyn, I headed up for infos about the relationship of the higher self/disc and the ELS, had read the chapter in Bruces 4th book and had questions about it. I think I'll post it in the bookclub the next days.
Spooky

Hey!

Well not much to report from me this time. I layed down saturday night here in the UK and gave myself plenty of time to relax. I layed there and then started to imagine what it would be like to be at the crystal, trying not to "see" but let the image come to me. Slowly and surely it did! My entry point is always slightly down the hill so i can see up at the crystal. I need to practise holding this though as I soon lost it and couldn't get back, I'm sure I made it this time. I briefly saw the crystal and maybe 5-6 people up there all greeting each other. I was gutted I lost my connection there so spoiled any other chance i think.

I had a very very weird experience last night though, I wasn't sure whether to post this in the main thread as I've never experienced this before but I layed down for another attempt to make it to the crystal. (just to set the scene the past few days I have slept very little, can't sleep at all for some reason lately), i always find I can OBE easier, quicker when I'm tired. Also I layed face down in bed which is unusual, I use to have this thing where i had to lay on my back arms and legs slightly apart, the "classic" OBE position otherwise I thought i wouldn't get out !

I felt the familar heaviness and it all happened quickly, i started to feel vibrations but instead of releasing from the physical it was like I took of in the same position into space? It wasn't space but it was dark and I wasn't seeing through my astral eyes? but could see, and there were like stars everywhere! And i was flying forwards, not controlling this at all, i felt the sensation of wind but no coldness etc and we built up speed and I was going really fast flying! I sensed helpers and at one point thought I felt hands, not like before where i felt physical hands, i would describe these as like astral hands, there were two of them. Then suddenly there was the noise, exactly like the hissing you hear when your trying to project, and its getting louder and louder! And I'm thinking why is this happening? I'm already OBE aren't I? how can I be flying if I'm not!? this caused the noise to die down a bit so i forgot about my thoughts and flew and kept going, louder and louder, faster and faster, the stars were whizzing by me i didn't notice them anymore! Then I was out!

I have never experienced this before, It was like going OBE except i felt OBE during it? Definatly confused!

It was like a lucid dream but I was concious throughout. I knew I was OOB and explored and then I thought I came out. I was in a new house, my dad and sister were there, they said we had to go somewhere or something, I said ok i'll be there in a minute but I've just been OBE and want to get back out! They agreed. all this time i was fully concious but for some reason the part of me that is meant to say, 'hey wait a second, this isn't really your house! your actually OBE and somewhere totally different!' didn't click in. Thats why i say its like a lucid dream, I've had vivid intense dreams, I've had OBE's, i know i was fully concious, i was there, not just remembering this, but it didn't click?

Next I was OBE again and my dad was with me OBE as well, and I said hey your out! and I prooved it by putting my fingertips on the wall, it felt just like normal but then i pushed my hands into the wall and he was shocked!

The next bit is weird, (sorry I'll try to keep this short! lol) I was me, but we were in a new neighbourhood somewhere, in a house. I knew we had a gang who liked to rule this area, i forgot who I was with, some of my family and some others. Suddenly the door and this gang burst in with weapons, they wern't human, i can't picture them anymore, they were slightly smaller though and they started shooting what seemed like pellets of a BB gun but these were real. I yelled for everyone to get down and cover there heads with there arms, we have no weapons, theres nothing we can do, just try to survive. They shot, i felt myself getting hit many times then they went. And I got up and was fine, i didn't relise I was fine though, i checked everyone else and we made it through. I'm sure this was all lucid, i kept popping in and out but was concious throughout just more concious at other times. Then I became 100% concious again and it stayed that way. We had to go, started running and i looked behind and these things were chasing us again! I decided to fly, put all my belief I can, I grabbed my sister (no one else seemed there anymore?) by her arm and shot upwards and flew, then i came out.

I'm a bit confused because the last event was kind of slipping in and out so i assume a lucid dream even though i was there all the time. The events before I was OBE. The thing which confused me is how i exited, it was amazing, I cannot put this into words! The whole thing was weird though and I guess it must be due to a lack of sleep. I don't know what to say but wanted to express this so thanx for reading and sorry for it begin long and confusing.

Bets thanks for responding, I need to re-read and get back to you, quite confusing but I think i know what you mean, like the interpreter and perciever ideas?

Ryan

Hi Ryan,
Before your fantastic experience, had you been reading Alysia and others on others' posts regarding how many bodies we have encapsulated in us?  Because IMO your helpers were putting you thru an experience which started with your consciousness in one and then moved you thru several other 'layers of consciousness' while en route. Wow! 
What a learning experience for us all if we can just separate these out and figure which was which.
I don't know but maybe it was Charles Tart, the chakra researcher, who said that each chakra/etheric nerve center, when fired up and in harmony with the Great All, is like a motor for a layer or version of the body and has its own way of knowing and perceiving. If you accept that description it would seem that you had your chakra motors going full tilt!  Congratulations!
bets
PS--To the other, Mairlyn's not constrained by time when she's 'out and about' so I'm not sure it's an issue of I / P or not. I'm really into this multiple bodies thing right now, and perhaps the I ? P is how at least one operates, but maybe not all.

Hi Ryan,
I too would say with Bets that you are discovering different nonphysical places and dimensions, and the way you go to different dimensions would be a different way.
If we take the classic OBE, it's said to be closest to the physical, so you separate from your physical body through another body which is etheric but still relatively solid, and your surrounding looks very similar to the physical, you won't even notice that it's not physical if you wouldn't check it, like you told and proove to your dad in your experience.
Now when we travel to other dimensions farther away from the physical all would be appear more and more less like the physical, also the way we make it there would be different, so not the usual OBE procedure, more this "click" or phasing way.
Possibly we are active all the time in this dimensions all the time and normally our physical aspect knows not too much about our other aspects. When we have experiences of other realities it would mean there are informations bleeding through, channeling from one dimension to the other. When we're not experienced enough with this translation process it may be that we perceive (I mean bring back to the physical) lesser the more far away the dimension is we opened the channel to. I would say the farther away from the physical, the more our means of "perception" is related to our thoughts, questions, imaginations, because that is the reality out there.
Very good that you sensed helpers in the star-blackness. I guess you could pick up a sort of "ID" of that place for further explorations, and/or to meet your helpers.

Spooky

Hey!

Thanks for the feedback Spooky, I really appreciate that, it's given me a lot to think about, none of which I understand yet! I would like to pick up on an ID for that place as its really neat out there and I really like it, I don't know how you get an "ID" though? I read about it in Monroes books but not sure how you do it.

I went OBE last night again which is unusual, two one night after the other. The same thing happened I found myself in the star-blackness again flying, it wasn't as full on as before though. The first experience there all around me felt like it went on and on, never ending, last night I felt more in a tunnel, or maybe just limited awareness. I also didn't feel helpers either last night. Once again I proceeding into an OBE and then also had a vivid dream? Where I was there but it didn't click I was out again.

In this vivid dream I was driving, for some reason I had to turn, i put the steering on full lock and nothing happened, i kept going straight on, next thing My car was all in bits, I had crashed. But instead of the car being in a mess all the parts on the engine were layed out on the floor. It was near a river also. Some people were watching me who I was aware of but couldn't see them. I walked past the engine in bits, all perfect then the chassis of the car. Have you guys got any ideas what this could mean? The reason I'm curious is because I'm travelling down to London this weekend for the day and to see the Chilis with a couple of mate, and I'm driving. Is this a warning? Is something going to happen?

I remember Reading In Monroes second book I think about his aeroplane crash dream about his flight the next day or week. It turned out his perception mixed it up and that the plane wasn't going to crash after all! I hope this is the case here! lol

I'm up for trying another PE this saturday and will definatly try to get out there.

Speak to you all soon,

Ryan

Well, I think Mercury is retrograde and that's the time to watch out for accidents, etc. I would heed the dream just in case.

Love, Mairlyn

Hi all, I had a nice trip:

I went to a nice landscape and walked around and came across a little crystal, or just a stone which looks a bit like a crystal, put my hands on it and it seemed to be solid; I knew if I would try to change it with my imagination I could change it, but I wanted to keep this place unchanged. So I couldn't enter this little crystal to beam me up to the TMI crystal, instead a person materialized, took me by the hand and flew off with me, I wagged behind this person and sensed a giggle, sounded like a woman! Finally I landed at the TMI crystal, a bit aside it and I turned around awaiting some others to come. One came, a woman, in bright colored and wide robes or gowns flying around her in red hues and in turquoise. Hmm, wasn't sure and guessed that's Alysia. We greeted and then I saw another person, little and shy, seemed to me a bit in a sad mood and not really wanted to be sociable right now. So I tried what I've learnt and gave her (female I guessed) a love boost, didn't know if I did it right, but at least there was happening a lot, much energy streaming through me to her and when I turned it down I saw something odd: The person was flickering, swapping between a more or less clear person and a white ghost-like figure, transparent, like a shell. This ghost-shell remained and didn't move. I said to the person on my left: "Alysia, can you see it? Over there, this transparent person or what is left from the person?!" She said: "We have to look for a pinpoint of energy flying around here somewhere." So I looked out for it but didn't find it. It was getting a bit messy and someone, another person, tried to regain some order into our meeting and suggested to make a circle which we did. It seemed there were maybe six persons making the circle. When I held out my hands to grab my neighbours' hands I noticed I didn't need to grab, it somehow snapped and I felt connected as if we were plugged together. Then I felt a calming feeling, I cooled down a bit and became more balanced. The guide-person then suggested we go over to the crystal which we did, but before this I looked at this ghostly figure again, went close to it/her/him, and when I touched it/h/h it floated away like fog, following the moves of my hand until it was spread in the air and not to be seen anymore. I returned to the group which was standing already at the crystal and after briefly lingering there we entered the crystal. The guide-person seemed to have a target to which to go, and we went off upwards. I had the impression there was some questioning and info-gathering going on so I tried to listen. I needed some time to get through, then I started receiving/thinking (I didn't thought about the following in particular before my meditation):

>>>Summerland? Focus 27? Beautiful wide land, so much space, some places settled only by a few persons, or only one, some places were more crowded. Depending on the preferences of the persons. The inhabitants are creating it, they are resonating with the structure building energy of this level and through them a new land is born, a new piece of reality is created. Are they easy to be contacted? Yes they are, they're not getting lost within their wide land, actually the land every inhabitant had created is part of the person, they're quite good to be found and contacted, if they want to be contacted. When they return to earth, they would leave their land alone? Well, it's as if they weren't gone, even when they incarnate on earth, you know time is different here, it's like simultaneous. Is it somehow dangerous to think too much about this home here while being on earth? Not really, it's part of the personal traits how much they're thinking about their place over here while being on earth.<<<

I wanted to get a stronger impression of this place which was the subject of this conversation and jumped into it. Wow, was that beautiful! Not much to say about the landscape, more flat than hilly, but the feeling I had being in this place was very good, I felt free, especially of any pressure of time/dates, and I was free to go or fly everywhere around this wide place, to feel the surface of it as well as moving through it (through trees for example). My "wife" appeared and we hugged.
I then turned back to my earlier listening position and the infos came again:

>>>There is rest, a preparation to leave the form-dominated levels. To take time for farewell. There are many visits to the next level before the final departure. This light-beings are graduates of the earth life system. They can create in much larger degree than the beings who haven't reached this level, they're creating in a different quality, not only choosing within frames, but actually creating new things/frames/laws. They also become (more?) independent of their Disk/Higher Self, they are somehow set free because they're grown enough.<<<


Spooky