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Jun 6th, 2006 at 1:34pm
 
its the 666 day is anyone worried about this  love to hear your comments love deanna
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Re: 666 today
Reply #1 - Jun 6th, 2006 at 1:56pm
 
Why worry..................be happy!
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Reply #2 - Jun 6th, 2006 at 2:29pm
 
I believe that 666 refers to Nero, who died a long time ago. There are a lot of Christians who don't believe in that 666, armegedon, rapture business. An invention of people like Hal Lindsey and Lahaye, propogated through fiction novels.

I recently read Revelations, and it seemed current to the time. Because of Nero etc Christians went through some hard times back then.

Here's one interpretation of the time period for which revelations applies.

http://www.reformed.org/eschaton/beast.html

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Reply #3 - Jun 6th, 2006 at 4:29pm
 
Recoverer,

I commend you for citing a scholarly article that does not derive from the New Age ghetto.   Most people do not realize that the original identity of "666" is well known in scholarly circles.   Any attempt to interpret ancient imagery must begin by asking what this imagery meant to the author's contemporaries.  Early apocalyptic writings like the Book of Revelation use coded imagery to protect their communities from heightened persecution.  For example, if an apocalyptic seer wished to criticize Roman oppression, he would use "Babylon" as a code word for Rome.  Babylon was of course the center of an earlier empire.  

In both Greek and Hebrew the letters of the alphabet each also stand for numbers.  According to Revelation 13:18, "666" is "the number of a man."  The numerical equivalent of "Emperor Nero" in Hebrew adds up to 666.  By the time of Revelation, Nero had fled in exile to Asia Minor (now Turkey) and was now dead, probably by suicide.  But many were uncertain of his fate and were terrified by 3 Nero impersonators who burst on the scene.  It was commonly believed that Nero would return, perhaps from the dead, to regain power and finish the job he started in persecuting Christians.  This fear is expressed by image in 13:3 of "the Beast" recovering from a  mortal wound.  For this and other reasons, the meaning of "666" is clear.

What then does this prophecy mean?  At the very least, it predicts new Neros arising to torture and execute Christians.   This prophecy was repeatedly fulfilled until the time of Emperor Constantine.   But does it have a secondary application for us today?  I find the case for a modern fulfilment unconvincing.

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Reply #4 - Jun 6th, 2006 at 6:20pm
 
We are talking about the date today, which is a date on the Gregorian Calendar, adopted 14 September 1742. The Book of Revelation was written under the prior Julian Calendar, introduced by Julius Ceasar in 46 B.C. (in force the following year). The dates of 6/6/6 on each don't coincide.

Rob

Source: Wikipedia (yes, it has errors, but I think you get the idea).
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Reply #5 - Jun 6th, 2006 at 6:34pm
 
Thank you Don:

Are you suggesting that the dispensationallist viewpoint comes from the new age ghetto?  Smiley

Hopefully the remake of the Omen doesn't do anything to fuel it.
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Reply #6 - Jun 6th, 2006 at 6:34pm
 
Hi i always thought on the 6/6/06 the devil would rise from the abyss and make war on god,and god would defeat the devil and throw him into the abyss with his evil followers for all eternity.Love and god bless juditha
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Reply #7 - Jun 6th, 2006 at 6:39pm
 
So did i juditha love deanna
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Reply #8 - Jun 6th, 2006 at 6:54pm
 
I had a very good day at work.
No problems at all!
I am also not superstitious
love to all!
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Reply #9 - Jun 7th, 2006 at 1:00am
 
Recoverer,

No, but both Dispensationalist Christians and New Agers engage in sensationalistic speculation about an expected Anti-Christ without due regard for the meaning of apocalyptic symbols in the first century.  

Speaking of Dispensationalism, here is an intereeting tidbit.  Most of them believe Christians will be resurrected to reign with Christ on our Earth (citing Revelation 20:1-3) What they overlook is John's vision of a New Heaven and a New Earth with no sea (21:1).  The New Earth is not a remodelled version of our Earth; the old Earth "has disappeared."  The New Earth is best understood as an earthlike spiritual realm in another dimension, perhaps like Focus 27.  However the millenial reign is understood, it too seems to occur in another dimension.  This is just another nail in the coffin of the indefensible doctrine that we need this body to be restored so we can reign on our planet.

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Speaking of Dispensationalism, here is an intereeting tidbit.  Most of them believe Christians will be resurrected to reign with Christ on our Earth
(citing Revelation 20:1-3).  What they overlook is John's vision of a New Heaven and a New Earth with no sea (21:1).  The New Earth is not a remodelled version of our Earth; the old Earth "has disappeared."  The New Earth is best understood as an earthlike spiritual realm in another dimension, perhaps like Focus 27.  However the millenial reign is understood, it too seems to occur in another dimension.  This is just another nail in the coffin of the indefensible doctrine that we need this body to be restored so we can reign on our planet.

Don


I have heard some speculation that when the poles shift earth's frequency of vibration changes to that of a higher dimension.  I don't know if this is plausible as a cause or not since the poles have shifted many times in earth's history. 

Don mentions the body needing to be restored and this leads me to wonder about the frequency changes of the body in regards to this and how we already exist in this "new body" or in other words this new body currently exists as something that is not separated from us.

Some years ago there were some studies done by Dr. Valorie Hunt and others at UCLA where scientists mathematically analyzed wave patterns and frequency of the colors of the human energy field as reported by well-known healers and aura readers. 

They were able to validate certain definite colors have certain definite frequencies.  While the frequencies may in actuality be higher than what the electronic equipment was capable of, the measurements listed in the study showed the nature of the human energy field to be a fluid like bioplasma or what some scientists say is a state between pure energy and matter or a "fifth state of matter" called bioplasma.

I'd be interested in hearing opinions, scenarios and other speculation about these predicted occurrences and how they might take place.

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Reply #11 - Jun 7th, 2006 at 11:49am
 
I believe that the wonders that await us are far greater than what can be obtained by a refurbished physical earth.


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No, but both Dispensationalist Christians and New Agers engage in sensationalistic speculation about an expected Anti-Christ without due regard for the meaning of apocalyptic symbols in the first century.  

Speaking of Dispensationalism, here is an intereeting tidbit.  Most of them believe Christians will be resurrected to reign with Christ on our Earth
(citing Revelation 20:1-3).  What they overlook is John's vision of a New Heaven and a New Earth with no sea (21:1).  The New Earth is not a remodelled version of our Earth; the old Earth "has disappeared."  The New Earth is best understood as an earthlike spiritual realm in another dimension, perhaps like Focus 27.  However the millenial reign is understood, it too seems to occur in another dimension.  This is just another nail in the coffin of the indefensible doctrine that we need this body to be restored so we can reign on our planet.

Don

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Reply #12 - Jun 7th, 2006 at 11:56am
 
Deanna:

I believe it is important to read revelations really closely before drawing a conclusion as to what 666 signifies.  I also believe it is best to "not" rely on a Biblical version that hasn't been around for very long.  It's also good to see what somebody who knows about the history from the time period has to say. Other wise it might be hard to understand what the symbolism is about. That's why I posted the article I posted.




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Reply #13 - Jun 7th, 2006 at 12:16pm
 
Could a devil really make war on God? That would be like a rain drop trying to make war with an ocean. Talk about a deluded rain drop.

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Reply #14 - Jun 7th, 2006 at 2:36pm
 
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Could a devil really make war on God? That would be like a rain drop trying to make war with an ocean. Talk about a deluded rain drop.



I don't have all the fancy book learnin' like everyone else, but isn't the devil, or Satan as he likes to be called, a fallen angel? I might be mistaken on that. Anyways fallen angel or not I've always considered them to be the opposite ends of the light/dark spectrum, where god represents 'good' the devil represents 'evil'
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