i have been trying to have OOBEs for quite some time now, and can reach the vibratory stage with relative ease, with or without audio aid. however, no matter how hard I try, i just cant break through the barrier and separate. any advice on the best way of doing this? or should I just do it from a lucid dream? thanks.

Hey,

Another way i find is just to stop thinking, easier to say than do but its like u switch off and that just allows you to get that bit deeper to get out.

another way is to feel the vibrations, listen to them, feel them, feel them going all through your body, feel them building up and up and up and up! it will soon get really loud and be a bit unbearable but then suddenly it will just go and your out!

there are loads of different ways and you just gotta find one that works for you. You sound like your so close though and doing really well since you get to that stage really quickly or easily and thats what people find really hard at the beginning.

Oh yeah and another thing to consider is you might already be out!! Ive been lying there before feeling slight vibrations, feeling slightly seperated but not feeling i have gone OBE yet and have actually been out. Next time you get to this stage roll over slowly and you feel like its you physically rolling but i always end up floating down to the floor so i'm out! becareful though because if you roll and your not you might have a nasty bump when you fall off the egde of the bed  !

Hope that helps,

Ryan

ok thx loads guys (especially Ryan, nice post:D) i'l try out all these methods when i have time.
thanx again

Best method for getting out of body,

DO THE WORK!

Meaning face your fears and or your darkness, grow through the plan for your evolution. Its hard to do but believe me thats the only way your going to get out of body , sorry to all the so called gate ways, the vibrational shifts that sale by the hundreds your best bet is to do the work. Take a good long look into your own soul and see where darkness resides then correct your energy, Thats it, all the best.,

I love this thread.  I'm not sure we really do "get out."  I think that "getting out," is just a way to free yourself into understanding that we are thought, energy and independent of the physical world.  We initially are awed by the idea of "traveling," and in opening our awareness we create an astral body.  It is wrong, in my estimation to put to much emphasis on this form of experience above all others.  Kathy, lucid dreams, phasing, impressions that we get of each other in partnered explorations, intuition and auras that I know you recognize are all states of altered awareness of equal importance in understanding our true nature.  Spirit - thought - pure and unbound.

In actuality, I believe that the astral body is no more real than the physical body.  We initially need it, create it, because we open our minds, but still require a familiar vehicle to travel in.  I do not believe that there is a defined body moving through normal space here.  As others including Bruce Moen have commented on in books and on this site, we focus our awarenes, our thoughts, our consciousness.  This is not true travel in the physical sense, but it is still pure perception. 

I believe that to evolve we must eventually lose the need for the idea of the astral body, of any body at all.  Still, OOBE is a great step on that path.


Matthew

Hi Matthew and Vicki,

I probably didn't ask my question very well, but I like what both of you have described.  I'm not sure if my understanding of these experiences are on the same page as everyone else or not.

What I'm trying to do is understand how people define these.  For example, when someone talks about AP are they saying the same thing as when someone else talks about phasing, or lucid dreaming, etc.?

I know Bob Monroe talks about phasing and said that we don't actually go out of body in the truest sense, but instead phase into another state of consciousness.  This fits with my experiences though I have seen people walking around fully conscious with what appears to be their astral body being partially "out" of their physical body.  I take this to mean that they are not fully incarnated in their physical body because of having a deep fear of being here in the earth plane, so they maintain part of their consciousness in a spiritual dimension as a defense mechanism.

With NDE and also OBE people report seeing their physical body laying on the operating table for example, or sleeping.  I'm sure this would lead to us believing that we are not in our body during these experiences.  To me and my understanding of this, its more like we are not "in" our body, but instead our body is "in" us and we let go of it when NDE or OBE occurs.  In other words to have a true OBE experience we must let go of our physical body as we do in death.  That doesn't mean that we can't project back into it or in my thought draw it back into us like people talk about. 

To me AP, phasing, lucid dreaming all mean the same thing, our consciousness travels to various dimensions like you mention.  Basically I'm just trying to clarify these terms in my own mind to better understand the thoughts of others.

Love, Kathy

[color=#993300][/color]Another method that works very well, if you have good lungs, is the circular breathing technique. Set your intent. Wake up after a min of 6 hrs sleep. Get out of bed for a short time if very sleepy. Return to bed, and do quick connected breaths through your nose, and only through your nose. There will be a moment where you say to yourself, " I can't do this anymore,  force yourself through this point. Then there will be a time you don't realize you stopped the circular breathing and find yourself shooting into another reality, or out of the roof of where you live. One thing thou if you have asthma like myself there will be difficulty keeping the fast pace of the breaths. Before my astma got worse I used this technique on a daily bases, and it worked 90% of the time.

Doug