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Re: Beserk's opposition to Monroe
Reply #15 - May 31^st, 2006 at 4:44pm

Hi Don-

You said "They claim that spirits inhabit the planets "at a higher vibration" which would make them invisible to physical vision".

I'm wondering.....why would a spirit even want to inhabit a planet (much less the far side of the moon)? Aren't planets intended for physical habitation, not spiritual? A spirit has no use or need for the things a planet offers, such as air, water, food etc. Seems to me spirits would not be inhabiting a "place" to begin with, at least not what we're familiar with.

Anyhow, I agree that the whole idea of an alien base on the far side of the moon is just downright silly. After all, if aliens are from another solar system, for them to even make it to Earth would involve technology of a scope the nature of which we can't even conceive. So there would be no need to hide out on the far side of the moon or anyplace else.

Not only that, but maybe they don't travel via physical means anyway. Maybe it's some sort of psychic travel, whereby they could just disappear at will. Again, no need for a base.

Just some thoughts on a sultry, otherwise boring day in Canada.

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Reply #16 - Jun 1^st, 2006 at 2:42pm

Recoverer, you said
"Regarding the connection between imagination and exploring, I believe that the spirit World is partially the result of the collective imagination of the spirits who inhabit it. "
Who are these spirits who inhabit it? Are they us on our time off from C1? Are they just our Higher Selves, or higher yet? I too believe in the power of collective imagination and I'm just trying to understand your view correctly because I think it is important.
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Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
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Re: Beserk's opposition to Monroe
Reply #17 - Jun 1^st, 2006 at 3:51pm

Betson:

I couldn't tell you who all the spirits are. Certainly some of them could've been spirits who incarnated physically for a while, but I don't believe that who/what they are is completely defined by what we see when we see physical bodies. I'm still figuring it out.

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Recoverer, you said
"Regarding the connection between imagination and exploring, I believe that the spirit World is partially the result of the collective imagination of the spirits who inhabit it. "
Who are these spirits who inhabit it? Are they us on our time off from C1? Are they just our Higher Selves, or higher yet? I too believe in the power of collective imagination and I'm just trying to understand your view correctly because I think it is important.
thank you,
bets

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Re: Beserk's opposition to Monroe
Reply #18 - Jun 1^st, 2006 at 3:58pm

Roger,

It's great to see you posting again. You eloguently express my grounds for skepticism about the alien moon base. For the sake of openmindedness, I like to assume for the sake of argument that such bizarre claims have merit and then ask what would mostly likely be true. If "aliens" need to have some way of using planetary gravity to connect with our plane, then perhaps the claims of Swedenborg, Robert Bruce, and Gordon Phinn have some merit. If these beings are real, then I consider it most likely that they are visitors from a parallel dimension rather than from somewhere in deep space. I remain skeptical pending a satisfactory explanation of why they would relocate to lifeless planets and moons. What disturbs me more is the premature willingness of many to uncritically embrace such claims.

You have apparently read my post theorizing that RAM's implausible astral past life recall is best explained on the basis of his drifting in and out of a dreamlike state during his OBEs. Since I created that post, I've had lucid dreams about secret initiation rites being peformed on me in the astral involving baptismal type rituals in some sort of Temple. The most stiking thing was the infusion of energy I experienced the moment the "astral water" contacted my body. But I attribute these experiences to mere lucid dreams fueled by my use of the TMI Gateway tapes and my obsession to explain the state of consciousness that misled RAM.

Still, you might be interested in knowing that I did experience that state RAM describes as "mind awake/ body asleep" (Focus 10). I had no bodily sensations during this powerful peaceful experience. I experienced this while I was supposed to be experiencing Focus 12. During this, I experienced apparent predictive guidance which I initially dismissed, but which now appears to be in process of fulfillment. I'll keep you posted.

Don

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Reply #19 - Jun 1^st, 2006 at 4:04pm

Recover said: " I'm still figuring it out. "

Yes, and that's what makes it so exciting!
Have you spoken of 'collective imagination' before on these boards? Does Bruce deal with it in his writings?
Could we equate collective imagination with the faith of a mustard seed ?
Isn't that an inherent energy of these boards, to create a bridge to the spiritual thru collective image-ination?
Thank you,
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There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
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Re: Beserk's opposition to Monroe
Reply #20 - Jun 1^st, 2006 at 6:53pm

I don't believe that I've used collective imagination before. I just figure that in some way the collective mind power of numerous spirits use energy to create the spirit realms. I don't know the details.

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Recover said: " I'm still figuring it out. "

Yes, and that's what makes it so exciting!
Have you spoken of 'collective imagination' before on these boards? Does Bruce deal with it in his writings?
Could we equate collective imagination with the faith of a mustard seed ?
Isn't that an inherent energy of these boards, to create a bridge to the spiritual thru collective image-ination?
Thank you,
bets

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Re: Beserk's opposition to Monroe
Reply #21 - Jun 9^th, 2006 at 11:38am

Don-

Yes, most definitely pls keep us posted! I consider you to have a tremendous amount of credibility. You challenge the experiences you do have, and want to first eliminate other, more mundane reasons for them before jumping to conclusions.

So if you come to be convinced that the experiences really do reflect an other-worldly explanation, I'd love to read about them.

R

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