Elysiumfire
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Some good replies to the question given. I myself am not religious, but contend to myself a spiritual acceptance.
Jesus' words convey to me nothing of 're'-incarnation, but of incarnation. He is not speaking of subsequence, but of consequence. This of course, leads one to ponder upon from whence we came, or what was our prior condition to incarnating? It intimates a disconnection and potential re-connection (with God?), and this physical life experience is the thread between the two.
Something of the dynamics of the physical life experience may lead incrementally, slowly, to that re-connection, but first, we must need to recognise the dynamics, and how they affect us.
We are told where we can get to, and by Jesus' life and example, how to get there, but alas, it is not a group endeavour, nor a group failure or success, but a individual and unitised concern. It is a personal and deeply private sojourn, where we are all travellers, journeying towards the same destination, silently contemplating the changing vista in our perceptions, but gathering not the same meanings and understandings. The varied answers given to the one question prove this.
I think Jesus spoke of a reconcilliation of self with Self. and only through the physical life experience can this be gained. Yet it must occur altruistically and empathically - sychophants need not apply! Having oneself immersed fully into water - symbollical of death and re-birth, of burial and resurrection - is merely apeing a connection with Jesus, a vain demonstration of hope in piety. Know that by your very existence you have already been baptized onto the path of re-connection, you have incarnated into matter. Another dip merely gets one temporarily wet. Yet, if that floats your boat, who am I to denigrate it? Certainly not Noah!
Regards
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