Regarding the issue of motherhood and childbirth, and how it is inherently, naturally and inevitably fundamentally different in the intraphysical and extraphysical, Spooky has pretty much summed it up :
Quote:Hi, my thoughts about this are, it depends on where you are in the afterlife. In meditation, I saw places of no form, of light, of parks, and places where women give birth to children. Imagine the following: If a woman is in a beautiful place, where you can build houses and gardens with thoughts. And she wants to experience a birth, that wouldn't maybe fit together. A physical birth has to do with blood, sweat, tears, fear, struggle, and then hopefully it's over and both healthy. In a world where thoughts become reality, and when it is restricted to only funny, joyful and easy things, a physical style birth would be misplaced. Also, there would be some difficulties with where the spirits-as-childs would come from, cause in those summerland-areas it is known there is no need to be born as child to exist there. So, you would move into a world which is more stable. That means, firstly one would make a plan, and when it's said "ok, I'll do it" then this one would go into this planned situation, but when it hurts, you can't go back like you would in a more fluid plane. The thought-things are more inert, solid, longer lasting as compared to more etheric places. So, it depends where you are, where you want to go and what you want to experience. Spooky
Quote:Also, if a young woman has passed over but never experienced motherhood while on earth, is it possible for her to experience it there, again having read that whatever we desire is manifested for us in the Afterlife?
The latter part of the statement above is not exactly true. Desires are of course easily projected onto the environment in the extraphysical, and it is easy for a consciousness to indulge in its desires, either for a less mature consciousness who doesn't know what else to do, or for the consciousness expressing or working through various desires.
The more mature consciousnesses of course, would have their 'desires' to do with genuine loving contact and positive evolutionary and assistential relationship with many others, and hence such 'desires' are actually (one with their purpose and) *work*.
For the consciousness who desires childbirth or motherhood, it depends on exactly which aspect of childbirth or motherhood the consciousnes is fixated on, or needs the experience of.
If it is an aspect or experience that the extraphysical can sufficiently provide (to balance that desire productively), then it can be arranged for such. But for the most part, what is desired, as Spooky explained, is the *physical* experience of motherhood and childbirth, and as such, the only way to satisfy such a desire (and karma), would be to physically incarnate and experience physical motherhood and childbirth.
This brings us to the key, the nature, purpose and special attributes of physicality, and why physical incarnation is so important, even necessary to many consciousnessess in the course of their consciential or spiritual evolution.
Quote:If that is the case then surely it means that whatever we desire in the Afterlife is NOT necessarily manifested for us? Otherwise, does this mean that desires in the Afterlife operate in a completely different way, by having certain limitations, as to here in the physical? If so, why, when there are no physical constraints There?
As explained earlier, desires in the afterlife are easily projected, but if your desire has to do with physicality, then it is only the physical that can fulfill your desire. Why else do people keep on reincarnating into the physical?
As to limitations, there are of course limitations from either side, the extraphysical and the intraphysical. The limitations in the intraphysical is obvious to everyone. Namely, the denseness of it all, including the greater rigidity of time, allowing for the consciousness to properly observe the working of Karma, of action and consequence. And most importantly, of course, is to allow the consciousness to co-exist and interact in a meaningful, collective-objective, physicalized story-context, which can only be *properly* afforded by dense physical incarnation. To work out and evolve relationships, old habit patterns, and various karmic issues.
And this precisely describes the limitations of the extraphysical as well (that the extraphysical or spirit world cannot afford such collective-objective context for interaction with others, not in quite the same way). One could say, the very limitations of the physical plane, is it's very strength.
Therefore, we have answered the question on why people continue to repeatedly incarnate, and reincarnate into the physical. And also your question on whether all desires can be fulfilled in the extraphysical. Desires have both extraphysical and intraphysical aspects, or put in another way, they are complex issues that have, as integral to their nature, the requirements for physicality either directly (eg. physical motherhood), or indirectly (eg. requiring interaction and relationship with another, in roles that can only be properly afforded by physical experience and context).
For instance, the story of real-life heros courageously battling against all odds and carrying out great deeds of self-sacrifice for the sake of others or humanity. Whether in wartime, or in various personal contexts, we are all aware of such inspiring real-life heroes in every country and time period.
Now, if you tried do re-enact or project similar 'scripts' entirely in the extraphysical, do you suppose anyone watching will react to you or your 'heroism' or 'sacrifice' in quite the same way? Or would you end up with nothing more than the cricking of crickets (and a single large sweat drop above the head of the audience, japanese anime style) when the script is done?
So you see, true heroism, sacrifice, triumph over difficulty, true testing and learning etc, can only be properly experienced in the physical, which is why many and nearly all consciousness (though with different evolutionary levels, the intention and rationale for this may be markedly different) in the spirit world *want* to incarnate, and re-incarnate, into the physical over and over again. (Even though many people whilst incarnate say "I don't wanna incarnate no more!"; in the spirit world in their clearest minds, they cry the opposite).
For the opportunities, to interact in relationships meaningfully, to participate in meaningful projects that have powerful, permanent impact on the evolution of humanity, and to experience love in all its aspects, including physicality.
That's the beauty and purpose of value of physical incarnation.
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