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Lorena's Angel Readings
Apr 26th, 2006 at 4:18pm
 
Lorena, a young widowed mother of two girls, is working hard to raise money to buy a new home (the old one, a mobile trailer, is in bad shape). She is offering Angel Readings for a $5 donation towards her new home. Full details can be found on her webpage is here :
http://ahomeofmyown.blogspot.com

Those interested in Lorena's Angel Reading, can view a sample Reading that was done for a friend, Simpo, here :
http://simpo.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=transformation&action=display&threa...


Thanks for reading, have a great day!
Kyo
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Reply #1 - Apr 27th, 2006 at 1:58am
 
I had requested Lorena to do an Angel Reading for a friend, and the reading has arrived. And how shall I describe the accuracy and relevance of the Reading? To be blunt about it, it was quite simply... AWWWESOMMMME!!!

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The following is the Angel Reading by Lorena, done for a young friend of mine, Don :


Hi and thank you so much for your generosity...May God send you many blessings! I hope your friend enjoys the reading..Ive asked the angels to connect me with your friends angels and heres the reading...

The first Angel is Raye and this is what she has to say...
Yoga and exercise are essential to your well being,peace of mind,and spiritual growth right now.You have received strong guidance to engage in yoga and other forms of exercise and this serves as additional validation.Physical movement is essential to realizing your dreams,desires and intentions.It gives you the energy and vitality that will help you begin and complete your projects.It opens you up to new and creative ideas.And yoga cleanses and enlarges your chakra centers so that your can hear our angelic guidance loud and clear.Yoga allows a noisy mind to become quiet so that it can meditate and hear the voice of heaven.Although you may feel intimidated by yoga or exercise,i will help you smooth the way.If you ask me,i will help you tailer an exercise program to fit your schedule,your interests,and your fitness level.You will receive this guidance in the form of repetitive thoughts and feelings,and also through information about yoga and exercise that comes to you "from out of the blue".I know that your a busy person,but i promise you that the increased level of energy you'll feel after exercising will give you the equivalent of more hours in your day.

The second Angel is Maya
Schooling study and education help in your lifes purpose and personal growth at this time.We angels guide you and help you with this process.We strongly recommend that you continue with your education,because the additional information and experience will accelerate the fruitation of your lifes purpose.You may worry about having the means to go forward with this schooling,but we assure you that everything will be provided to you along the way.This educational process brings you great rewards.It enriches your understanding of your spirtual power,and accelerates your memory and motivation towards your lifes purpose.We will guide you to teachers,schools books,funds,schedules and all of the resources that are plentifully available to you now.

The third Angel is Rochelle
As you honor and follow the guidance of your heart,prosperity is coming to you now.You are fully supported by heaven and we have heard your prayers for financial support.Be assured that we see money as a symbol of the abundant supply that God provides to all of his children.The earthly negativity surrounding money comes from human minds alone.In heaven we see money as the energy of exchange.We know that you need material essentials.Like any loving parent,God wants his children to be comfortable,safe and happy.This is one of the reasons why he sends you guardian angels.Your finances have been blocked in the past because of guilt and other negative beliefs and emotions.I have helped you heal and release most of your negative association with money.Please know that i am here to help you so that you may help more people.The more that you allow me to give you,the more you may beable to give to others.In the near future you will be able to manifest all of your needs.But in the meantime allow me to help you through my heavenly contributions.

The fourth Angel is Chantelle
Now romance is imminent,either with a newcomer or through a reignited passion in your existing relationship.Be open to giving and receiving love.You have been hungering for more passion and romance,and your prayer is answered.I am a Romance angel and i am here to help you.New love is on its way to you and you can open the door to this romance by opening your heart.The more that you welcome new love with open arms,the more romance will come your way.This also means that you must express yourself romantically toward your partner.Be candid about your feelings and intentions.Be playful(like we angels are).And most of all be openly loving with your partner as a way of encouraging the flow of romance to return to you.I will give you guidance along the way and it may involve actons that seem unrelated to love.Yet,you will know that it is me who encourages you to join a gym,enroll in an evening class,or meet a new friend,for example.My trademark characteristic is that i create a very strong feeling in your heart and then i surround it with warmth,like im giving you a big hug.The more that you follow this guidance the faster the romance will be delivered to you.

I hope you enjoy this reading!
Lorena

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On behalf of my friend and all others whom you've Read, our deepest appreciation and gratitude to you, dear Lorena, and to all the wonderful Angels, guides & helpers who participated in these Readings! Thank you and much Love always for all of you!

For more info on Lorena's Angel Readings, please visit her webpage at :
http://ahomeofmyown.blogspot.com
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Reply #2 - Apr 27th, 2006 at 9:23am
 
Hi Kyo,
I would like to email Lorena to request a reading.
What information should I provide?
Does she need my name and D.O.B.? Maybe time and place of birth?
Could you please let me know?
I'm looking forward to my reading. I think I can do with the guidance Smiley.
Thank you very much.

Peace.

S.C.

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Reply #3 - Apr 27th, 2006 at 10:40am
 
Hi SunriseChaos,

Her e-mail can be found on her webpage here :
http://ahomeofmyown.blogspot.com/

For her Angel Readings, she does not need specific karmic data such as full name at birth, date of birth, time of birth, country at birth, country of current residence, etc. (These are required for the Hilarion Reading though). Your name alone will suffice for her to do an Angel Reading for you.


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I'm looking forward to my reading. I think I can do with the guidance.


I'll just like to add, that Lorena's Angel Readings are of a markedly different format or level of assistance, from the Hilarion Reading. I'll most certainly and thoroughly recommend both without hesistation, for they're both wonderful beyond description; but do take note, that if you have deep seated, karmically complex issues (eg. the precise karma of a specific relationship with a named person) that require detailed elucidation, a Hilarion Reading will be appropriate.

My friend Don (who's done both Readings) puts it this way - while Hilarion's overarching, multi-leveled and multi-faceted advice delves deep into your issues and your being, Lorena's Angel Readings deliver "out-of-the-blue" punches straight into your face with unnerving accuracy and straightforwardness, in regards to your current issues. And yet with so much love, compassion and caring, that you're touched to the core of your being, in experiencing the Angels' love directly for you (not merely in the words of the Reading, these are but a channel for their energy and love, which is quite distinct... the vibratory signature of the Angels are quite distinct, even from the compassion and love of other comparatively evolved beings, guides, helpers and extraterrestrial races who guide and interact with humanity).

A final difference is that in the Hilarion Reading, you get to ask your own questions, while in Lorena's Angel Reading, your Angels (who work both collaboratively, yet independently, with your guides & helpers) directly advice you on the issues they *know* you're struggling with, completely without iteration or input on your part. The accuracy of Lorena's Angel Readings on one's issues, is quite simply, stunningly wonderful.

Both Readings are quality services beyond description. Much appreciation, gratitude and love to Hilarion and to all the Angels. And of course, to the channelers Jon C Fox, Lorena, and all other lightworker channelers who contribute their services sincerely, willingly and compassionately for all humanity.
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Reply #4 - Apr 27th, 2006 at 11:40am
 
Hi Kyo.

I may give this reading a try.  It seems sincere.  I am reminded however of a course I took at Columbia University on human personality.  In the course, we were told that we were going to get a new computer generated analysis of our personalities.  That everyone's reading would be tailored toward them.

The class was amazed; the accuracy was rated at better than 90%.  Everyone wanted to know how it happened. 

The readings were carefully crafted to cover all bases, so that everyone saw themselves in the reading.  "You are shy at times, but you can have other times when you want to let your hair down and let go."  - A shy person who who wants it to be them, or an extrovert each might respond to this statement positively.

So I guess, I'm not a confirmed skeptic, but I would like to see my own reading and then decide how accurate it is.  Lorena must be truly blessed if hundreds or thousands of people's angels communicate to her without seeing the person or knowing their specific age, birth, geography and history. 

I am, however open minded, so I'll see what I get.  I may be a little suspicious if my angels are named Maya or Rochelle.

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Reply #5 - Apr 27th, 2006 at 11:45am
 
Do you not find that reading a little standard and vague?

Do you not also think it odd that a person who is capable of giving accurate readings has to explain her life story before asking for money?

I know many people in dire situations, but they are not giving out daily horrorscopes and explaining there life story before charging people.

You will need to point me to specific hits on that text because I simply cannot see them. Nor, this time will I remove this for being rude because this service seems very dodgy to me.
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Reply #6 - Apr 27th, 2006 at 12:01pm
 
Matt

There is a difference between questioning the validity or truth of an issue and being rude.  I think your post is both logical and polite.  As usual, trying a reading out for yourself may be a way to go about things after hearing other's testimony. 




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Reply #7 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 12:37am
 
This reading seems standard in that it could fit a hundred people right off.  I did not see much of anything person-specific in it.
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Reply #8 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 1:55am
 
This reading is very similiar to what one would get off angel cards at this site:

http://www.consciousone.com/c1Cards/cardsView.cfm?cardGroupID=1

I'm not suggesting in a definitive way that her readings are not good, but there is an element of clairvoyance in card reading, and doing a cut-and-paste job is not the same thing as doing a real reading.

That's how this appears to me. I'm not a card expert, but I do use angel cards and this is missing something, and that something is the intuitive aspect that's there when guidance is assisting. The most I see here is the mere selection of cards, which anyone can do themselves. We don't know if her guidance was assisiting in this reading or not.

Kyo: I'm surprised you got so spun up about this. Forgive me, but you are smarter than this. I see nothing in the reading that tells me it's guided and not cut-and-paste. Not that I don't feel compassion for her; I do. I would suggest getting a reading as a way of donating without offending her pride.

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Reply #9 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 2:45am
 
Matt wrote :
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You will need to point me to specific hits on that text because I simply cannot see them.


Boris wrote (long time no see, Boris) :
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This reading seems standard in that it could fit a hundred people right off.  I did not see much of anything person-specific in it.


Rob Roy wrote :
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Kyo: I'm surprised you got so spun up about this. Forgive me, but you are smarter than this. I see nothing in the reading that tells me it's guided and not cut-and-paste. Not that I don't feel compassion for her; I do. I would suggest getting a reading as a way of donating without offending her pride.



*griiiiiiiiiinnnnnn*

Just do Lorena's Angel Reading, and you'll understand.

It has to be the person him/herself, to recognize how precise the Angels (through Lorena) are. For the record, my friend Don's (Lorena's Angel) Reading, scored a 4 out of 4. All four (issues, communicated by the four representative Angels) were precisely the four most significant issues of his life that Don is currently dealing with. Very precisely.

And the guidance bit (ie. not mere mechanical copying and pasting), is evident in the subtle statements such as

"I know that you're a busy person."
Don is well known for being far more busy than any of his peers, so much so that he has been on the verge of breakdown many times. It's a trait associated specially with him, and none of his other peers.

"Your finances have been blocked in the past because of guilt and other negative beliefs and emotions. You are fully supported by heaven and we have heard your prayers for financial support."
Among his peers, he is the only one who is heavily in debt, and the only one who loathes the very existence of money on Earth.

"We strongly recommend that you continue with your education, because the additional information and experience will accelerate the fruitation of your lifes purpose."
Among his peers, he is the only one who is wanting to drop out of school. He has attempted to do this before, and is still tempted to do so.

"Now romance is imminent, either with a newcomer or through a reignited passion in your existing relationship. You have been hungering for more passion and romance. Be open to giving and receiving love."
Don had *only recently* experienced a very painful breakup with his girlfriend of several years, and still mourns over it.  He's been "hungering for" passion and romance back with the same girl, and consequently, has closed himself to "giving and receiving love" with others.

None of the above (which are only a small sample of *all* the hits, and *no* misses were found in the Reading) constitute 'evidence' of course. There can be no evidence for this kind of thing, even if the hits were 10,000 out of 10,000. The skeptic will simply dismiss such as, "tis a psychological thing, you read into the statements your own issues, so it's always going to be 100% hits."

Or is it actually, "tis a psychospiritual learning issue, that the skeptic will always read such 'psychological associations' into every psychic Reading, and so regardless of probability and more importantly *purpose & meaning* to the individual, all psychic readings will be dismissed as psychological trickery."?


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And yes, as Rob Roy says, a good Angel card reader (such as Lorena, clearly), has to act as a channel for the Angels' telepathic communication, in addition to merely the physical manipulation of the Cards.

Hilarion had fully explained the process of (or 'secret' behind) the Angel or Tarot Card Reading, here :
http://infinity.usanethosting.com/Heart.Of.God/Tarot/index.htm
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Reply #10 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 5:03am
 
Just pay $5 and I will understand?  Wink

Sorry but those points you listed all apply to me too.
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Reply #11 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 5:40am
 
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Sorry but those points you listed all apply to me too.


Well then, there ya go!  Grin

Definition of validity to me, is what works. If you've benefited from the advice (from the Angels) via the Reading, then it's a successful one. The Angels sure do work in mysterious ways. Congratulations on your successful (and free) Reading!  Cheesy
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Reply #12 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 6:13am
 
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Well then, there ya go!  Grin

Definition of validity to me, is what works. If you've benefited from the advice (from the Angels) via the Reading, then it's a successful one. The Angels sure do work in mysterious ways. Congratulations on your successful (and free) Reading!  Cheesy



Ok, my reading :-

Farmer Joe:

Farmer Joe says you will at one point soon discover a new chance for money. You must decide between small wealth or feeling happy

Sue the Cleaner :-

You have a love interest and will soon feel that you will need to resolve this. You are strong willed at times but are shy too.


OK that reading will be $2 dollars please.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #13 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 10:27am
 
The only way to investigate is through direct experience, or through testimonials.  Perhaps if Mattb wants to he can get more convincing testimony elsewhere and then feel Lorena is the real deal (or not).

5 bucks is not going to maker her rich.  But the idea that guidance will come from that route is quite unusual.  If one considers the fraudulent street readers and gypsies who read cards, I would ask you Kyo, can you see a situation where you don't believe the communication?  If not, why not?

The problem is see in a universe where there is no right or wrong, where truth is relative, where even agreeing on what is or isn't cosmoethical is a matter of opinion, is that knowing true guidance from false may be a difficult if not impossible distinction.


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Reply #14 - Apr 28th, 2006 at 10:50am
 
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The problem is see in a universe where there is no right or wrong, where truth is relative, where even agreeing on what is or isn't cosmoethical is a matter of opinion, is that knowing true guidance from false may be a difficult if not impossible distinction.


As Byron Katie puts it, the situation isn't the problem. Our thinking (ie. beliefs) about the situation, is.

Strictly speaking, there is no 'true' or 'false' guidance, only (relatively) helpful guidance and (relatively) unhelpful guidance. The 'true' guides are those who are in a position to assist, and have the consciential clarity to do so effectively. The 'false' guides are those who do not have the clarity and capacity to assist effectively, and often act as intruders.

Who makes the judgement then, whether any given being acts as a 'true' guide or 'false' guide? It is a collective judgement and collaborative understanding of the beings that wish to assist, the guides & helpers.

But that does not make the matter 'objective', because such a term has an unhelpful conotation of reality being separate from the beings themselves, and therefore a conotation of irresponsibility.

Matthew, we've been over this matter (of right/wrong, relativity, cosmoethics, etc) many times. No point flogging a dead horse, or bringing this up over and over again. If you come to a decision that you prefer to believe in an objective 'right' or 'wrong', etc, then that is fine, really. No double standards here from either of us. I suggest you let the matter rest.


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If one considers the fraudulent street readers and gypsies who read cards, I would ask you Kyo, can you see a situation where you don't believe the communication?  If not, why not?


There's nothing to 'believe' or 'not believe' the communication. In such a scenario, you might make an analytical and/or intuitive opinion (which cannot be 'right' or 'wrong', but it can be (relatively) accurate or (relatively) inaccurate; to insist on a 'right' or 'wrong' is a slippery slope to dogma), on how skilled/evolved/competent the psychic (giving the Reading) or the entity (that is being channeled), is.

I've personally observed or participated in numerous Readings. Apart from Tarot/Angel Card Readings (for which there are certainly many excellent Readers such as Lorena, and some others perhaps less gifted in such), in terms of channeled Readings, I've only consistently recommended the Hilarion Reading by Jon C Fox, and will continue to do so, as a service to others.


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