Thanks for the info Kyo, but the Audio tapes are what I wanted.  Looking forward to receiving them.

Peace,
Paradox

Hi Cosmic Ambitions,

I just want to say what Mary experienced is nearly the same regarding the incarnation topic like I got through my meditations, just other symbols (no cube). I'd only like to make two remarks: When completed the earth-experiences I'd say instead being eternally with god, the great self is evolving into a new level or realm, like Monroe wrote ("wink out"). But this may be just other words for essentially the same. The other thing is, I'm not referring to physics, talking about a certain number of dimensions or something similar, I don't think spiritual experiences are close to physics (though quantum mechanics can make one confront with seemingly impossible facts, which can cause someone to doubt about the old-style-solid world).

And thanks Kyo for your respond!

Think I will write again sth in this thread,

Spooky

Cosmic Ambitions, yes I have similar thoughts about such a meeting! If you have some money and some time, maybe make a trip to TMI, many like minded people I saw there, kind of family.

Hi all!

I was thinking about this thread, and I remembered I have different infos about how it works, reincarnation and personalities. They seemed not to fit together:

1. I once asked about me, in the state immediately before my present incarnation. Then, there were two persons, one was me, they looked down on a screen or something similar. That "I" said: "Oh no, I will mess it up once more. I don't want to." The other said: "You KNOW it is the best for you." That "I" replied: "Well, allright, yes..."

2. Other infos say: This is my last incarnation. With my experiences my total self (disc/ I/There) will be able to interprete the other gathered experiences in a new way. It will ba able then to make a step further in a different level. All lifes (of the probes) are stored within the total self. The "I s" of the probes/persons merge with the total self. You will not get new Karma in this life, you're released of the reincarnation cycle. [You might think "Now Spooky is getting much too spacy!" That's what I thought too!] Every new person to reincarnate was created of parts from the total self.

So, for me it didn't fit together that I obviously was just another worried soul sent to another learning trip down to earth (1.), but at the same time this should be my last incarnation, and I'm already released (2.)? No, don't work. And on the one hand I had reincarnated as a person with more or less the same traits (indicated by some past life "movies") and on the other hand every time a person is created new from some parts of the total self (which contains maany lifes)? This too seemed not logical to me.

Therefore, I asked about that today in a meditation:
"Some souls don't merge again with their total self after a life cycle. They forgot. They got used to the limitations of the physical life, so that they don't accept infos from their total self anymore. They are still parts of their total self, but they don't notice it. Then, there will be a reincarnation cycle of this single-person, so it seems to them, but they are still fed with infos from their total self, gently, on a subconscious level, and they even will receive new traits and personality parts from their higher self, and they still will not notice it. But finally they will awake. That had happened to you when you had noticed, or had found it is possible, that you are part of something greater, or that you are greater than a physical single being. Then your reincarnation cycle had found an end. Your present life is re-integration, return, reunion- from your perspective. From our you were never separated, but in your mind you were. There ever was a flow of data, from you to the whole, and from us to you. And of course, the helpers are from your total self, or working together with it in harmony. Once, you wanted always to go away, to find the wisdom outside, a frontier man, a discoverer, but separated from yourself and others by doing this."
I asked to give me proof, something sensational, which makes me really believe it. With a smile, I was told: "It is important to let you go your own way, it is necessary. You will only accept what you want to accept. There is no way to force your personality with impressing miracles when you are not ready for that." Then I saw briefly my helpers (especially one woman, ever heard of a love affair with a helper?), and some glimpses of places where I've been on my mind journies, as if to express: "Now, you think you made this all up?"
I too have asked additionally on the purpose of my current life. Shortcuts of before and from this life came on my mind, and it was as if I had something in my body made of steel. It seemed to symbolize a sort of toughness. An iron will, but in the same time stubborn. On the one hand a risk of further separation, on the other hand a chance with own thoughts to find back to the source.


Am I crazy or what? You know people, would you say something rings true of that, or would you say "Well, Spooky, see it the psychologic way..."? --Just a worried mind. A bit.

Spooky

Spooky said: Am I crazy or what? You know people, would you say something rings true of that, or would you say "Well, Spooky, see it the psychologic way..."? --Just a worried mind. A bit.
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nah...if your crazy, I'm more crazy, it pretty much fits, but theres more to it than what we get with the disc concept. I like the curiosity story and seem to understand that better than the disc one. I think we are supposed to take what Bruce has given us and enhance it somehow with our own experiences. when I get confused about being a grilled cheese with DP my guide, I just practice thinking that we are all one, not separate, on the intrinsic spirit level, but can remain individuals if that is our desire. and yes I do believe we can have love affairs with our guides because undistorted love is different than love on Earth which is self serving at best.
hugs, alysia

Thank you Alysia and Kyo!
Today on my meditation I went here and there in the darkness, or some brief scenes came, it was a kind of nothing, but I felt refreshed afterwards. So, I have just to digest all those informations at my own speed, being serene and easy.

Spooky

thanks Cosmic and Spooky
(notice we have funny names here..hee.)

speaking of being refreshed spiritually..the time I recall being the most refreshed was after suffering with the collective truama of 9/11. I set a vague intention to go find some relief in my emotions.

it was on a Sunday morning the clouds disappeared and the sun in my soul returned after I had gone somewhere in my spirit in the night. all I remember was there was an immense crowd of souls, I don't know how I found a seat, didn't seem important whether I stood on the fringe or not... we had all come together for the same purpose..to be inspired by this speaker. he was male. I didnt' get a name. the  folks came and went and absorbed all he said about 9/11. I didn't need to remember the words but all in all the message was that good would come from what happened and we would understand this later.

I was so hurt and confused before attending, I came back to wakefulness and I knew everything would be ok. and then I checked to see if there was any more retrievals to be done. love, alysia

Hey laffingrain,

laffingrain wrote:

(notice we have funny names here...hee.)

You know what they say laffingrain! "Birds of a feather flock together!" LOL!

I enjoyed reading both your and spooky2's "refreshment" experiences/posts...

I've noticed while meditating, after receiving the heart beat, vibrations, etc... that sometimes after the meditation is over I feel refreshed, and other times I feel utterly exhausted. Like I ran a marathon! Not sure why the flucuations? Maybe it depends on the amount of energy I have before beginning the meditation, and also, the food intake that I had for the day... I'm still not sure though. I do however enjoy the feelings of invigorating energy that my body gets when my astral counterpart begins "loosening" within my physical body! It kinda feels like a really soft bed sheet moving/flowing freely within its physical constraints... very soothing/relaxing.

I remember reading somewhere that eating before meditating can actually deter one from achieving an adequate meditation session because the food actually pulls the energy/focus of the body into the process needed to manage/digest the food... Have any of you heard anything regarding this? I was just curious because I usually have a bowl of cereal before bed... (maybe I shouldn't do that anymore!?)


PUL,
Cosmic_Ambitions

Your style is impeccable LaughingRain laffingrain! LOL! 

LaughingRain wrote:

"The energy gathering exercise entailed being on top of the world and hugging it... I know, it sounds so new agey and silly, I was "Luaghing-Rain" at myself, but cannot deny what happened afterwards as I was out of my body before my head hit the pillow... sha boom! Like a rocket."

I don't think imagining yourself being on top of the world and hugging it sounds "silly" neccessarily... I usually picture the entire world in my mind, then I picture myself gliding down into the atmosphere and transforming into a shield of comforting/protecting light that wraps around the world... Sometimes if there is a particular person that I know needs healing of some sort, I will imagine that person in my mind and create a beam of light that encircles them, as to "hopefully" create healing... Also, sometimes I do a sort of "wax on wax off" with my hands... I'll take both of my hands, raise them in the air, and create little circles with them... In one hand I'll imagine the circles I create as taking all the negative things away from a specific person in need, and with the other hand, I imagine that the little circles are creating a warm healing within that person...

I have no confirmations as to whether this process actually works or not... But, at least I'm trying "something". LOL!

PUL,
Cosmic_Ambitions


P.S. Also, I've been imaginatively wondering... I have read numerous reports about the effects that positive thoughts, music, etc... can have on the molecular structure of water. (i.e. after being analyzed under an electron microscope in its frozen state, water has been observed as having changed its molecular structure based on say positive and negative thought patterns, whereas, with positive happy thoughts the water looks rather well kept, well organized... v.s., with negative, angry, frustrated thoughts, the water molecules become unorganized, splattered in appearance, and rather unkept...) I got to "Cosmic" wondering ... Does this imply, (because water is the basic ingredient to all lifeforms/substances), that if we talk to our cereal "pleasantly" in the morning before we eat it, or say complement the water in the shower before we wash up, that it will in turn make us healthier/more productive? I haven't heard any reports about how the water's medicinal purposes change as a result of its molecular morphism... but, it is an interesting thought to pondy ponder upon...

P.S. #2... (You won't find me any day of the week talking up my cereal in a public restaurant!) LOL!