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starstream
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Where do we go when we sleep?
Apr 16th, 2006 at 4:06pm
 
I have read that, during sleep we visit the spirit world.
Do currently "living" souls only go to certain areas in the sleep state,or can we go just about anywhere.
I am curious,as there seem to be many different specified areas,for many situations and as yet I can't recall anywhere I have been.
Saying that,do dreams we all have about past places,perhaps somewhere we have very fond memories of,are these created by us when visiting "up there" for us to relive something, or somewhere pleasant.

I hope this made sense

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Re: Where do we go when we sleep?
Reply #1 - Apr 16th, 2006 at 5:36pm
 
On my personal experiences, I'm dreaming most of the time of the people and places that needs me, of things that is bothering me in present life, of things that is I like to do in present life.

Strange but it is what is happening to me on my dreams.  This made me think that dreams is away for me to remember that I have to do something like to communicate to the people that was on my dream.  I don't remember dreaming about them if I am in touched with them in physical life.  
I don't remember dreaming of having something if I have it in my physical life.

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Where do we go when we sleep?

I think we go to areas, situation or places where we are needed.  I'm not sure if that's correct but that's what is happening to me most of the time.

One incident is this:  I have no idea that my grandma passed away because I'm in overseas.  That night.. I dreamt of her.  In my dreams, she is alive.  She is singing and holding a micropone.  She passed the microphone to my other grandma.  Then we are all laughing.  

When I got up.. I smiled and says.. it's a nice dream.  Then my moble phone got text message.  A message from my mother.. telling me that my grandma just passed away  Cry
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Re: Where do we go when we sleep?
Reply #2 - Apr 17th, 2006 at 12:29am
 
Hi Starstream-

The idea of "going somewhere" implies that when we observe a change of scene it means that we have been transported elsewhere.  For example, when I close my eyes and imagine what is happening in my bedroom downstairs, the imagery that I get could be interpreted to mean that I have projected my mind there to have a look.

However, this is only one way to understand what's happening. An equally valid way is to view reality as a set of properties and relationships, all arising together in N-space, a place of infinite potential dimensions, and all arising at a single point of awareness that we call the One (or God, Cosmic Consciousness, Brahman etc). Out of these, we select several properties (properties of objects are ways that objects dimension themselves with respect to color, size, shape etc) and pull them together into an image. This image has all the properties of a specific location in 3-space, yet it occurs without moving anywhere.  We observe it because we, like everything else, are actually extensions of the same Oneness, and thus our actual location is at the single point at which the One exists.

This kind of explanation suggests that in fact we never move anywhere, except in the sense of moving our minds to the different clusters of traits and properties that we associated with different locations.

Using this type of explanation, we can answer your question by saying that in one sense, the everyday world sense, we "go to a dream world" that resembles what we experience. In another sense, since we are part of the One, which is the totality of everything, we go nowhere. All we do is point our attention to a different set of data.

In at least one sense, both explanations are fully valid. Looks like you pays yer money and takes yer choice, eh?

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Reply #3 - Apr 17th, 2006 at 2:11am
 
Its a complexed world our dream world, we do sometimes leave our body's and go forward into the astral plane, these visits to this plane are for the purpose of creation putting out energy so that it can return to us through the process, but most of the time our guides have composed viewings for us when where in our bodys sleeping.

These viewing are there to help us with our journeys they may be giving us a different way of seeing a present lesson they maybe about over coming fear, theres just so much that goes on. But on a higher level we are all fully aware of these complexed arrangements, designed to help us evolve.
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Reply #4 - Apr 18th, 2006 at 8:35am
 
Hi  Smiley

This is a very interesting subject; what happens when we go to sleep.  I like your comments Dave  ... and LightR-on.

Steiner has investigated what happens when we go to sleep and briefly to sum up his book;

When we go to sleep (i reckon Dave's correct we go no-where) we re-live our days experience from a spiritual point-of-view. 

Therefore it is keeping with the theory of going backwards, to reconcile.  Everything that has happened in the day is re-played back again when we sleep; in spirit form - how the day affected / left an impression on our spirits and the spirits that we interacted with during the day.

For example; a young brother and sister are fighting over a toy.  The brother clouts his sister over the head with the toy.  The mother sends the brother to his bedroom for the afternoon. The sister sneaks in and gives the brother a biscuit.

When they go to sleep; the scene will be re-inacted in spiritual form (material dependency does not exist) The scene is the same, the toy is the same but the brother sees or feels how he has hurt his sisters spirit by clouting her with the toy, her hurting spirit hurts his spirit.  They see/feel their mothers spirit, worried, upset, helping.  The gesture of the biscuit fills both the brothers and sisters spirit with love.

A simple example but this is what happens every night - a re-play of the day through the eyes of the spirit.

You could say that this re-living during the night is our spiritual 'paperwork' that is completed after each day.

As this is exactly what happens when we die but on a bigger scale; we re-live / re-play our whole life
backwards to reconcile exactly how our spirits' interacted in the life.

The daily re-living during sleep stores the relevant information our spirits need for growth; so by the time we die we do not wade through mounds of undealt with issues, we are uptodate with our spiritual status.

make sense?

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