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Why is there religions and are they right/wrong?
Apr 8th, 2006 at 11:38am
 
That's my question.

Do I get to find the truth to all this, life etc, ever in my lifetime?
What are the functions of religions?
Is one or more of them true?
Or are they all wrong?

Reason to ask this, is that all of the religions differ from what you say is the afterlife going to be, yet some aspects of every religion are in them.
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Reply #1 - Apr 9th, 2006 at 9:06am
 
Hi Sissi whatever any of us religious beleifs are, we will all go to the same place . Religion does not matter in the spirit world ,we are all spirit and all on this earth plain to learn and progress no matter what religion we are .God bless juditha
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Reply #2 - Apr 9th, 2006 at 9:15am
 
What if Christianity is right and all this what you say are devil's lies?

I myself don't believe in that but there's always if...

Creepy, when you think about that.

But in your opinion, or in someone experienced's opinion... Why there are so many "truths" (as every religion states they are the only way to truth)?
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Reply #3 - Apr 9th, 2006 at 10:27am
 
Greetings,
Hopefully people can find a religion that deals with the same kind of spiritual experiences they have personally had. Then that religion will feel right and true to them.
This websight is not a religion. Members here are members at a variety of churches and other places of worship.
I believe that the love these posters have for Spirit and even for each other protects them from evil (d'evil/devil.)
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Reply #4 - Apr 9th, 2006 at 1:28pm
 
Everyone has their own 'truth' and if they are on the spiritual path, it all leads to the same place.

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Reply #5 - Apr 9th, 2006 at 8:27pm
 
It may all lead to the same place, but i don't think all of these religous divisions are what we need on this planet.

It divides us, no matter it's morals it's a division. I look for the day when we all realize that we are indeed 'One' and these religous/political/racial barriers are broken. This world doesn't have to be the way it is.
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Reply #6 - Apr 9th, 2006 at 9:40pm
 
I recall Don I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) speaking of one of his favorite published near death experiences, when the person asked what is the best/truest religion, the answer was whatever brings you closest to God.  I take this to mean that to lead a holy life, by being good to others, following the golden rule, basically being a good person all can lead to God.

Often, man his used religious organizations for his own end, and so the idea that only one religion is "correct," has been perpetuated.  Jewish people are called the chosen people of God in the old Testament.  In the new testament, Christians point to Jesus' saying "I am the light and the way, and there is no way to the father but through me," as meaning nonchristians are doomed.  Of course Jesus never actually dooms any group of people, in his sayings or quotations.  I don't know what to say of Islam, if the use of the words  "infidel" and "nonbeliever," are anything like the fundamentalists say they are, I have problems there. 

We are spiritual beings with souls and free will.  It is so clear that one does not earn brownie points with a divine entity by being a member of a club.  You have to walk the walk.  As such, I would never believe in condemnation of a large group of people based on a religious organization.  Tell me what the individual does, if they believe and act well, if they are spiritually inclined, they will move in the right direction.  Whatever "club" they belong to.

I like the She'ma of the Jewish tradition, as I think it incorporates an ultimate understanding of God and our true natures.   She'ma Yisrael, adonai, elochanu, adonai echad:

Hear O Israel, the lord our God, the lord is one.

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Reply #7 - Apr 9th, 2006 at 11:17pm
 
Matthew,

Yes, in his NDE, atheist Howard Storm asks "Jesus and the angels," "Which is the best religion?"  They answered, "The religion that brings you closest to God ("My Descent into Death," p. 73).   But Jesus also tells Storm, "No one will go to God except through the atonement of Christ, the love of Christ, and th way of Christ (p. 67)."  The point is this: it is not the doctrinal accuracy of your belief system that is decisive, but whether you lead a loving grace-based life.   Christ's atonement can be effective for righteous non-Christians who can be educated in Christ's teaching after death and establish a relationship with Him then.   It is the moral and spiritual quality of consciousness that is decisive, not how one would fill in a postmortem multiple choice theology exam!

What I object to in this sort of discussion is posters who express opinions on religions they have never studied.   That practice illustrates what I mean by "the New Age ghetto mentality."  Religions are very different and, no, they are not teaching basically the same things.    For example, the Koran does not teach us to love our enemies.  But sometimes the natural and instinctive spirituality of a religion's devotees compensates for any deficiencies that particular faith might have.

Don
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Reply #8 - Apr 11th, 2006 at 6:52pm
 

Hi  there,

I appreciated your grace-based response, Don.

I recently heard a statement that was new and
helpful to me personally: 

" Justice is getting what you deserve; mercy is
getting less than you deserve [i.e. punishment] ,
grace is getting much more than you deserve [i.e.rewards]."
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Reply #9 - Apr 11th, 2006 at 7:45pm
 
I believe that God is the most loving and wise being there is.

Therefore, he'll never give up on any of his children.

Regarding the role of Jesus Christ, I don't know.  If he is the link, then it would have to be more of a matter of the way and spirit he represents, rather than the body that inhabitted the planet earth for awhile.

If there is a reason for why you have to accept Jesus as the way, then there would be a "VERY" good reason for why you need to do so. Not just so you can prove your obedience and fear of God. Certainly God is beyond such pettiness.

I would much rather love, respect, honor and appreciate God, than fear him as if he is some ruthless dictator who punishes his creations simply because they can't bring themselves to lie to themselves and confess an allegiance without actually feeling it.

You cannot obtain true allegiance for God by fearing him. You can only do so through having true appreciation of who he is and what he represents.

Let's make it simple. Who respects a biological parent more? A child who was raised in a loving way, or a child who was raised in a fearful way?

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Reply #10 - Apr 13th, 2006 at 10:17am
 
Why do religions exist?  I can only speculate, but I think there are a few different reasons. 

The first is probably that communication (in pretty much any form) is very often imperfect.  One of the central elements of most religions is that they have their sacred scriptures...their particular book or group of books, which their adherents believe describe more or less the nature of reality in general.  There's the Bible, the Qu'ran, the Vedas/Gita and so on.

The thing to realise about all of these texts is that they were usually the product of what we now call channelling or spiritual inspiration, in the sense that a person was in contact with a spirit or group of spirits and attempted to record what was sent through to them.  However, the material also had to get filtered through the author's mind, and Bruce can tell you how bad the Interpreter function of people's minds can be with such things.

Another major thing about all of these books is that the ones in the major religions are all very old, and have generally been translated into various different languages.  These means that the channelled/inspired material got filtered through not only the original author's mind, but also the translator's minds as well.

Then even within each religion itself, you will have people who want to either interpret the scriptures in different ways, or they will often each think that certain parts of the writing are more important than the rest...this was typically why denominations were formed in Christianity, and why other religions can have sub-sects as well.

Another reason for religions existing is that human minds deal very poorly with novel (new) situations, and so many of us try to live as much of our lives as possible as a series of repetitive sequences of behaviour which can be executed without conscious thought.  Another word for these sequences is a ritual.

The leaders of early religious groups noticed how much human beings find ritual comforting, and in order largely to become more popular, they decided to incorporate ritual elements into their church services.  Another thing early religious leaders noticed was that people are often very insecure about whether or not they're accepted by God, and so by first inventing rituals and then claiming that the performance of them pleased God, they were able to fold two major ways of becoming more popular into a single activity.

Yet another reason why multiple religions exist is because we all have had different backgrounds and experiences, and filter/interpret information from the context of those experiences.  Because of this, certain people would sieze on a certain scripture or piece of channeled information, interpret it in a certain way based on their own background, and then declare it the truth.  Exclusivity, or the claim of something being the only truth was used primarily to enhance the feeling of importance within a particular group; it allowed both leaders and followers to believe that they knew something which nobody else did, and thus allowed them to feel very special.

Yet another reason is that historically, human beings have been averse to self-responsibility, and instead greatly prefer the idea of a teacher external to themselves (Jesus, Mohammed, or whoever) outlining exactly how reality is, and what each person's role is within said reality.  A lot of human beings really love this, because it means they don't have to do any thinking or accept any responsibility themselves whatsoever; they can simply take a pre-arranged place in a group and live their entire lives like that, with a minimum of mental effort.

There are many other reasons, but these are probably the major ones.
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