Hi guys,

Who can prove there is an AFTERLIFE?  I'm pretty sure any of us had a deceased loved one.  How come there are a lot of people so possitive about afterlife?

Sorry for all the silly question, but i rather ask then don't know.

Thank you for reply
BRAVI

There is no way anyone can prove it to you, you have to prove it to yourself. A recent post in this forum (just a day or so back) from someone who had been to see a medium and recieved a message from his deceased father is a perfect example of someone who has proven to himself that the afterlife is real.

As spitfire says read up and this will give you the believe that it is real, then when your ready go and seek the proof you need. I am slowly reaching that point myself.

Bravi asks the most common question,...however in this scientific era we live in, we need scientific proof in order to believe something or see it for ourselves...Even then sometimes it is hard to believe in something that is totaly oposite to what we have learned....to the order of things as we know them. In all the situations however the answer is personal research..knowledge is the ultimate power  and it shapes our reality...it keeps us free...this why They don't want us to gain knowledge...they don't want us to be free cause they need us under their control....I know I got off-topic a little bit....What I am trying to say is that through your own research, a well organised research, you can learn and understand...there is something there that tells us there is something more that this life....There is plenty of material in this site as well as in the links section to establish an initial idea, and then start to expand. Take care.

Life is our Playground,
                                            Antonios

It's extremely simple to prove the afterlife exists, once you have the skills needed to do so.

If you can go OOB at will, you go visit someone you know, find out exactly were they were.. exactly what they were doing, and any/all details you can pick up while there, once out of your OBE, phone them, find out what they have done, where they was and who with etc etc. Repeat as many times a nessicary.

I could get a peice of paper, write a sentence on it.. someone could go out of body view the peice of paper and give me the sentence, problem is.. no one is willing to step forward, and do such things under controlled conditions, under tv camera's etc.. so it can be proved to the masses.

Once the basic's of OBE'S have been proved, then you move onto contacting the deceased of people, and if you can provide an exact name of someone's deceased relative, and i meen full name.

If you can accept that as 99% proof, then you would be a fool, and have no right... to try to delve into the subject of afterlife existance.

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Where i can gather my own evidence, for the existance of the afterlife, and i can do experiments to prove it's existance, and the fact, that you can repeat these experiment's to achieve correlating   results.  Theres no experiment thats proved god's existance, nor is there likely to be. Ultimately... both science and religon... are the same apart from 1 fact, experiment repeatability...

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But experience, comes before belief. So you cant open yourself to something which has not been experienced, you can be open minded about things happening.. but no point making something out of nothing, otherwise your just living in a nice fantasy.. and when reality slaps you in the face, it's gonna slap you good and hard.

Thinking = invention, and invention = experience which ='s belief...

Just the way humans work.

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Good point matt,

It's all about balance, an open mind.. most great discoverie's, are found by 1 or just a few people, until many discover the same thing, and it becomes a fact.

The more people that do it, the more re-producable it is.. and then it become's a widely excepted belief.

Hermes Trismestigis said something lke "As above, so below." The afterlife presumably follows this.

The problem with a proof is that the information on the afterlife is subjective. The best we can get is a statement that lots of people say the same thing. That's not a proof of the facts that they are repeating, but only a statement of the fact that they say it.

In general, a proof is going to be either a demonstration that people seem to say the same things most of the time, and that this would be very improbabe if caused by chance alone, or it will be a controlled experiment, although I have no idea how that could be done. In general, the methodology for experiments of this sort tends to be extremely intricate and messy. One additional problem is that having had so much information, most eople know how to respond as if there is an afterlife, so their opinions are not very useful, nor are their descriptions, even is highly detailed.

I'd be interested in any experimenting people might want to do in this regard, but t is definitely a difficult methodological problem.

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