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My family, friends, and the spirit world. (Read 8418 times)
Bud_S
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Reply #15 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 3:59pm
 
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I think the important thing, Bud, is that the issue is violence in any form, not who the perpetrator is, as Mairlyn has stated.  

We can all get sidetracked by nuances of meaning but it is obvious that you and everyone else knows what has been observed here.  I would not change my original statement.  If it was a child being punched I would say "child" and if it was a man being punched I would say "man" because, after all, we are all human beings.  

Why is it important to know who the villain is when violence appears in our world?  There is no villain...there is only the bad dream from which we as a species need to AWAKEN.

love, blink


nonetheless, I laugh every time I see that clip.  Of course, I enjoy slapstick, and that's basically what this is.  I suppose cartoons and the three stooges are violent too, but I really enjoy that sort of thing.  Anybody see the movie "Dodgeball?"  I never imagined seeing a guy get hit with a wrench could be so amusing.  The outakes on that movie are hilarious.  How about that Tom Hanks movie "Ladykillers?"  Something about a large black woman slapping the crap out of a young guy whilst scolding him is just inherently funny to me.  Again, the outtakes on that scene were too much.

As for real violence, the notion that growing consciousness takes us away from our natural tendency toward violence is a given.  That's why we have so many weak victims able to raise more weak children all the while building morals that protect them.  Overall it's progress, but along the way greater consciousness in a weak, inherently violent species leaves it vulnerable to more effect from less potent physical threats.  Where is this going?  The same way all other complex, large brained species went... the way of the dino. (imho)  But that's not all bad either, because we can certainly inhabit another species as we inhabit this one.  Maybe slapstick won't be funny to our next set of shells?  hmmmm, hard to imagine.



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Reply #16 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 4:05pm
 
I do see your point, Bud! Smiley

We may indeed go the way of the dinos...and what we may next inhabit may have to be an entirely different planet because this one will take so long to recover from the rather huge footprints WE are laying down here.

But all's well that ends well isn't it?....   b Smiley 

Anyway, didn't mean to hijack this thread, but it's been real!
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Re: My family, friends, and the spirit world.
Reply #17 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 4:12pm
 
Bud, did you know that most women do not like the 3 Stooges and men love them.

But then I can't watch Animal Planet where the SPCA is picking up abused and tortured animals. I love Animal Planet but have to turn away when this comes on.

I won't watch violent movies anymore. They serve no purpose for me. BTW, the only thing I don't care for about Chuck Norris is his singing. LOL

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Reply #18 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 4:16pm
 
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Anyway, didn't mean to hijack this thread, but it's been real!


right on blink!  I enjoyed it and glad we strayed off a bit.  Have a nice day  Smiley
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Reply #19 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 4:27pm
 
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Bud, did you know that most women do not like the 3 Stooges and men love them.

But then I can't watch Animal Planet where the SPCA is picking up abused and tortured animals. I love Animal Planet but have to turn away when this comes on.

I won't watch violent movies anymore. They serve no purpose for me. BTW, the only I don't care for about Chuck Norris is his singing. LOL

Love, Mairlyn  Grin



Chuck sings?  oh my gosh, I can't imagine that's very pleasant!

Abusing and torturing animals is very evil in my book.  Poor animals are innocent like children.  I don't like it when they suffer either.  I suppose it wouldn't solve anything, but my first inclination is to commit some similar violence on the perpetrators.

I didn't know that about the stooges?!  Of course, I'm a guy, and oblivious to many things like that.  Now that I think about it, my wife never showed any interest in them at all.  makes sense.  I rather enjoy violent movies, but psychotic violence and war movies sometimes get to me and I bail.  I watched Rob Zombie's first major movie The Devil's Rejects, and I gotta say I was ashamed to be a human.  I like Rob, but he's a little too good at capturing our dark side. 

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Reply #20 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 4:55pm
 
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I suppose it wouldn't solve anything, but my first inclination is to commit some similar violence on the perpetrators.


There goes the revenge again. When will we ever learn ???

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Reply #21 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 6:03pm
 
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There goes the revenge again. When will we ever learn ???

Love, Mairlyn  Cry


Learning involves getting past "first inclinations," not denying they exist or surpressing them.  I'm fully aware of my animal nature, which includes the need for exacting revenge on those who deserve it.

Let me bore you with another story.  When I was a senior in high school, a very dear friend of mine and our family who was 57 at the time was beaten to death with a claw hammer.  We knew who did it, it was not a mystery.  His son in law.  I was 18.  I grabbed my hunting rifle and headed for my pickup with the notion that I would shoot that piece of crap down and deal with the consequences later.  I got to the truck, sat in it for a while and came to my senses and went back inside.  Son in law did 6 years for manslaughter.  Big deal.  If I could have 100% gotten away with it, I probably would have driven to his house, but probably still wouldn't have shot him.  I don't know.  I've forgiven a lot of people for a lot of things, but not him - he's nothing to me, and I don't waste my time dealing with 'nothings'.  I won't argue that revenge is a good thing, it's not.  But it's a natural, instinctual reaction that can't be unlearned in a lifetime imho.  You may not have it, but I do.  What I choose to do about it is all I can control, not the initial response of wanting it badly.
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Reply #22 - Mar 28th, 2006 at 9:18pm
 
Hi people,
sometimes I have the idea if considering past lifes and progressing, isn't it possible that former victims should learn to stand up and get tougher, to not make it too easy for people who tend to abuse people in any form; isn't it, we shouldn't invite people by our passivity to rule us? I just thought it's maybe both sides have to learn, the perpetrator and the victim.
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