What about the race of people who killed them and stole their land?

Does Isolation+hallucinogenic drugs=spiritual enlightenment?

I don't see how they were much different from any other isolated civilizations of that time. It's almost a stereotype.

The indians were very spiritual ,they believed when they died they would go to the happy hunting grounds ,indians were natural clarevoyants they knew many things  deanna

Native Americans were not always helpless victims, especially at the beginning of European immigration. True, they ended up losing their land but in the meantime they did a fair share of ruthless, savage killing on their own. No race or nation of people is innocent. None even come close.

Rob

Im not so sure about that Rob have you got historical evidence to back up that claim?

The only Indian tribe that I know of who were openly evil were the Mohawks, who indulged in regular scalpings 
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That's like saying that the Polish partisans in WW2 were "evil" because they killed Nazi soldiers every opportunity they got, Jambo. Do you actually believe that???
Did you know, that scalping was introduced to the Indians by WHITES? Read REAL American history...
Also, considering that the whites that got scalped by the Mohawks were mostly PURITANS (who considered the Mohawks to be "children of Satan" and did such fine things as paying bounties for murdered Indian children, AND considered burning harmless old ladies at the stake a rollicking good time) I'd say the Mohawks deserve a lot more respect than you say they do. Sure, nobody's innocent. BUT keep in mind, that the early New England colonists (1600's/early 1700's) were basically the products of  LATE MEDIEVAL EUROPEAN culture (perhaps the most vile culture, BTW, that humanity has produced in the last 12,000 years... think Inquisitions, "witch" burnings, yadda yadda.) AND I'd say INVADERS deserve whatever punishment the original inhabitants of a given area can dish out in any case... ESPECIALLY Yahwist fanatics (as the early Puritan New England settlers were!) That ought to be a no-brainer...

B-man

This is a shame that this post took such a turn away from the original meaning.  I agree with Juditha that native American indians were and are a highly spiritual people.  There is much to be learned from them even today - perhaps even more important that we learn it today.

I was going to comment on the land stealing, scalping and so on, but it's history.  One can learn from it, but can't change it.  If a person doesn't like living in a country taken from it's natives (who were probably only relatively peaceful because of vast space between tribes AND probably were not the first people to occupy North America = Kennewick man is 15,000 years old and not genetically related to any tribes), one can always move to a country whose ancestors never hurt anybody or told a lie, but that might be a tough one.

Theres no need to be aggressive I was just stating my opinion.

But how do you know that the recorded history is providing the truth, If you believe everything the historians tell you then you really are gullible.

And How was that post "regurgitating the whitewash of political correctness"?

Please don't antagonise me even more

And how was I "twsiting" what you said?

Idiot

Spitfire,

I see no reason to do redo the research to prove something that anyone can see for themselves if they had the integrity to look for themselves instead of mouthing what they've heard. If they want a quick and easy to reference, they can read the US Declaration of Independence, just for starters.

I'm sick of people idolizing Native Americans as though they were completely innocent and did no wrong, that they were oh so peace-loving and spiritual people.

People ought to take a look at some of the pathological things that were done to Whites. They should also go look at what some NA did to each other. And they weren't all the same and didn't all have the same spirituality. To typecaset like that is racist.

I never said any of them were evil. Neither was I speaking of one particular tribe. How someone that from my post is a mystery to me.

Yeah, Spit, I should take a chill pill. I've been hearing this tripe all my life and I'm quite sick of it.

Rob