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Mar 8th, 2006 at 8:36pm
 
I know this is somewhat off topic to an extent but do star signs have an important role with our spiritual developments?

Although not everyone is true to their star signs most people in my own experience are.
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Reply #1 - Mar 9th, 2006 at 6:31am
 
Hi Jambo  Smiley

Astrology is my favourite subject because I am in complete awe of it!

I did write a piece that is placed in the off topic section (I can understand why it has been put there)

I have just posted a message on reincarnation and the Spiritual Realms that the Soul advances through. 

These Realms are the Zodical Constellations.  When a Planet passes through a certain Zodiac Sign an energy/vibration is released that affects the Soul in individual ways.  The Zodical Signs, in the Spiritual Realms are initiation stations and it is from here that the Soul departs back to Earth.

Therefore one might need to receive the Jupiter message with the vibration of Mars.  This is then taken into the Spirit onto Earth and set into motion.

On Earth, when a planet passes through a Zodiac Sign it vibrates and awakens something in the Soul - an alignment that often takes place subconsciously.

When one looks at ones BirthChart, drawn for the moment of birth, the position of the planets in the various signs symbolises ones Spirits accumulation before this birth.

The aspects made between the signs and planets is the particular journey and tasks that the Soul has choosen in this life.

It is an complex subject but if one starts to look at what each Sign and Planet symbolises (stands for) a picture begins to form ... that may take many years or lives to completely understand .. lol  Smiley
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Reply #2 - Mar 9th, 2006 at 6:54am
 
Scorpio's are go!.

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Reply #3 - Mar 9th, 2006 at 11:33am
 
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Scorpio's are go!.

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rofl   Cheesy
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Reply #4 - Mar 10th, 2006 at 6:49am
 
Lol .. what an amazing graphic!

Scorpio
Water - the purificatory waters of testing and trial.

On the lower levels, loving darkness and ready to wound but on the Path the processes of reorientation transform the Scorpion into the Eagle. Symbolising the need to transform physical, emotional and mental aspects and lift them up into heaven.  The tests of Scorpio provide the crises and reorientations which produce the triumphant disciple occuring on all levels, ever leading to higher spiritual indentifications.

The nine tests of Scorpio:

Physical plane - sex, physical comfort, money.
Astral plane - fear, hate, ambition.
Mental plane - pride, separativeness, cruelty.

These nine tests confront humanity as well as the individual.

Exoteric ruler:  Mars
providing the fighting spirit

Esoteric ruler: Mars
Doubly strong meaning those on the Path who reached the stage are not easily disheartened.

Polar opposite:  Taurus
Earth and water must be blended and related, underlying baptism and purification.

Warrior I am and from the battle I emerge triumphant.

Scorpio is a sign in which battle is undertaken against evil "The battle for the Lord"

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Reply #5 - Mar 10th, 2006 at 9:07am
 
Thanks for the info Augoe,

These tests of which you speak, what exactly are you ment to achieve? are you ment to control these factors or change them?
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Reply #6 - Mar 10th, 2006 at 9:11am
 
For those interested in Astrology, there is an Astrology website, called Astrology for the Soul, that Jon C Fox describes as "Hilarion-based Astrology Classes on the Internet! Moses Siregar shares his excellent grasp of Hilarion's astrology in fun on-line classes."

The link to that website can be found on Jon C Fox's "Links" webpage, under "More Hilarion" :
http://hilarion.com/links.html

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Reply #7 - Mar 10th, 2006 at 10:14am
 
Thanks for the links Kyo - i will have a look  Smiley

Hey Spitfire ...
Thanks for the reply (I thought I might have left a few questions!)

I think the tests are for - overcoming or to be overcome  - lets go through them;

The nine tests of Scorpio

physical comfort
this could mean overcoming comfort zones and not attaching oneself to physical substances like food, drink and smoking (im guilty of this) as we do take these attachments through with us into realm 3 as crutches and have to learn to let go of them there.
(hopefully its easier there!)

money
well money ... money can become an obession with some people and money should be viewed as a means to an end only.  
(I would like to see a civilisation that operates with no money!)

fear
fear must be overcome because fear is the cause of alot of misunderstanding, blockages and a channel for malefics.

hate
hate no-one, love our enemies and our world will become a better place.

ambition
this is a tough one as in todays world we are told to do our best, have ambition, go far etc...
it could be saying ambition thinks only of the I and we need to think more of the Us ...

pride
overcome the 'i am so important' mentality.
I dont think its wrong to take pride in ourselves per se the way we look after ourselves its just the puffed-upness of prideness that is not very loving.

seperativeness
this could be overcoming the 'i am different from you' therefore i might be better/bigger/lesser/smaller/specialar than you
we are all people who experience the same things albiet on different levels or perceptions.  We are in this together.

cruetly
ah well ... this needs no explaining. Cruetly must be one of the worst forms of hate.

Sex
did you notice I left this until last ... lol .. (pulling your leg) this could have been your only question ...  Roll Eyes Scorpio does rule the sex organs.

Here i need help and its a topic i wouldnt mind having an open discussion about.  

We know porn is degrading (unless mutual partner consent to watch it?) but it can really make one 'mad' and it is possibly the worst manifestation of love ...

We can touch upon the realms of Osiris and Isis and the missing phallus ....

But lets talk about sex in the manner of 'making love' ... my thoughts are; this is a beautiful expression of ones love for a person. Does this mean one partner for life or multiply? what about marriage vows?... i have read that 'making love' in the spiritual world is a wonderful experience as here we have a real joining of the 'bodies and minds' .. here on earth, is this wrong?
Is this why there is Aids?

Maybe Kyo, the site he mentioned, or anybody else could help with trying to unravel this mystery of sex?

See ya  Smiley


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Reply #8 - Mar 10th, 2006 at 11:35am
 
well, i can empathise with most of them - im not generally addicted to any substance, except yorkshire tea. i like money but, it does'nt rule my life. theres few things, which truely scare me. hate... definetly one i hav'nt conquored. ambition, i have ambitions, and goals - but generally i will share what ive learned from my own achievements with others. pride, i take pride in my accomplishments, and also pride in other people who have achieved things, similarley to which i have. seperativeness.... still gotta work on that, think seperativeness with some peope and hate are a bit of a cycle. cruelty, pretty much under control, unless i hate someone - then i feel detached from them , then i can unleash cruelty upon them with no remorse [another cycle]. sex.... im a strong believer in being faithful, and not cheating - thus coming back to pride.

Cant most people claim a similar thing though? or am i just putting my own views onto everyone?

btw, how does the chinese calender fit in? if it does at all?

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Reply #9 - Mar 11th, 2006 at 12:16am
 
No Spit You certainly aint mate

Im a Pisces, which is notorious for being over-sensitive, which i am.

Pisces are meant to be distant and shy, that too i am.

there is a long list pisces traits that i seem to have but we would be here all day
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Reply #10 - Mar 13th, 2006 at 6:49am
 
Great replies Spitfire and Jambo, Pisces to follow!

Spitfire .. yorkshire tea!!

I am glad to see the topic is staying with Sign. I did feel uncomfortable after posting the questions I had asked.  Although it is a subject that is quite crucial in our development; one partner is the ultimate answer. 

We all do have Scorpio in us and the nine tests apply to everyone; the laws of life.

Scorpio is the Symbol of (stands for) the nine tests.  As these tests are conquered; the Scorpion transforms into the Eagle, soaring above the trappings that hold one down. 

Scorpio as your Sun sign Spitfire; shows your individuality and indicates your inner ideas, aspirations and reactions.  Some of which may be known to you and need not necessarily be revealed to others. 

The further placements of the other nine Planets in the other eleven Star signs will portray a more filler, complex picture of yourself.

People are unique; it is very seldom that one would share the same placement.  Twins, although very similiar, will have degrees of differences of the placements and these degrees can be quite subtle.

It is said; we need to go through the complete Zodical constellation before we can leave the Earth realm.  Not necessarily in order of the signs and sometimes we might need a bit more of Pisces for example.

Spirfire, the message of Scorpio is always needed in the world. In a deeper level it is a dying to the lower self, to ressurect to higher man.

Does this make sense to you?

Chinese astrology is a different form of 'teachings'
and as equally good.  The thing is with Eastern mysticism or philosophy they do not recognise the Christ impulse. (This is another discussion)

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I would like to say; astrology is not a Illusion it is a Science.  Planets and the Zodical constellation is a mineral manifestation and therefore does exist.  For clarification to the discussion on reincarnation.
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Reply #11 - Mar 13th, 2006 at 7:15am
 
Pisces

Water - the waters of purification applied through daily life.

Pisces is one of the signs which demonstrates duality, as illustrated by its symbol, which represents two fishes united by a bond or 'silver thread'.  The two fish symbolise the soul and the personality or human form.

The fundamental keynotes of Pisces are:

Imprisonment or captivity.  This applies to the soul which is imprisoned in matter, and the personality which is in bondage to the soul.

Renunciation or detachment.  This also has two aspects, for the soul renounces the higher life and light to descend into the ocean of matter, and then soul-infused consciousness must detach itself from the personality world and reorient itself to the 'One who sent it forth' into manifested life.

Sacrifice and death.  Here again is, first, the sacrificial work of the soul in redeeming matter, and then the required sacrifice of the personality, and the death of form, and consequent release to higher states.  Service is one of the great methods of liberation and an important aspect of this sign.

Exoteric ruler - Jupiter, providing the magnetic potency which binds the soul and personality in functioning relationship.

Esoteric ruler - Pluto, here the destructive element of Pluto works on a general level, ending outworn forms and bringing the liberating processes of death.  The function of Pluto is that of destroyer of the ties that bind man to the wheel of existence in form, and it brings about transformation so vital and basic that man eventually becomes 'the new and living One'.

The reciprocal influences of Pisces - the two fish, the two rays, produces various effects:

Duality
Psychic sensitivity
The process of transmutation
The attraction of the spiritual paht.

Tasks, goals and opportunities-
The special gifts of Pisces are sensitivity, fluidity and liberation.

Domination and right use of sensitivity.

Control of fluidity and synthesis of the dualities found in every human being - between head and heart, mind and love, will and wisdom.

Death of forms that bind and limit and the consequent release of the indwelling life.

Service; the directed intention to serve is a scientific mode of achieving release, and recognition of the process of liberation is the mainspring of the life of service.

Development and right use of the Will.

Opportunity is offered in Pisces to achieve liberation and transformation of:

Negativity into positive soul infusion.
Psychic sensitivity into spiritual perception.
Self-pity into compassion.
Self-preservation into detached world service.

To be guarded against-
Passiivty and negative tendencies such as self-pity and self-concern; vacillation; lower psychic receptiivty and mediumship.

Polar opposite - Virgo, custodian of the hidden spiritual life.

Message of the Soul-

"I leave the Father's Home and turning back, I serve".

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What do you reckon Jambo!
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Reply #12 - Mar 13th, 2006 at 8:03am
 
Hi I am capricorn but havent got a clue what my sign means . God bless juditha
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Reply #13 - Mar 13th, 2006 at 8:32am
 
Hi Juditha  Smiley

Capricorn

Earth - symbolising the stony places and airy heights of the mountain side.

The Goat finds its sustenance in the harsh areas of the mountain which it is said it must climb upon its knees, and this is symbolic of the difficulties and testings which are distinctive experiences in Capricorn.

The mountain top (signifying initiation) is a place where 'the four winds of heaven blow', and the up-hill nature of life under this sign prepares for this final testing.

The keynotes of Capricorn are effort, struggle and determination.  The goat, climbing the mountain in search of food, represents on the lower levels the hunting of the average man for material satisfaction; on higher levels it symbolises the aspirational search of the spiritual man for inner sustenance. 

The Unicorn is sometimes also given as the symbol of this sign, its one long horn replacing the two horns of the goat and symbolising the triumphant initiate. 

Capricorn offers opportunity for transdence of the form of life, elevation of consciousness and the processes that lead to transfiguration and eventually initiation.  It is said to 'guard the secret of the soul itself - the secret of the hidden glory'

Exoteric ruler - Saturn, compelling man to face up to his karmic liabilities and meet the testing that will bring him liberation.  Saturn brings the ray of the energy of activity and intelligence.

Esoteric ruler - Saturn also, re-emphasising the testing on all levels which the soul in incarnation must pass through to achieve transfiguration.

Tasks, goals and opportunities
Capricorn is often considered the most 'earthly' of the earth signs, and with the mountain of karma presenting the struggling soul with an unending up-hill climb, it offers continual opportunity to transcend the form life.  It confronts its subject with extreme challenge and testing, but holds, even if hidden, the way to the 'Light Supernal' of the mountain top.

Among the special tasks in Cparicorn are- the conquest of matter, elevation (of consciousness) and liberation (from the past in order to be free for higher and more spiritual life); the overcoming of pride and ambition, and the eventual experience of the mountain top (illumination) This has two aspects:

The experience of utter loneliness and darkness, and preparation is made for this through many lesser experiences of it on the mountain path, the lessons of solitude.

Illumination and realisation.  But this should not be thought to complete the way; light connotes the overcoming of darkness, and the disciple who reaches the light recognises the need to return to fight and give himself in service as the message of the soul makes clear.

To be guarded against
Ambition and glamours connected with materialism and achievement.  Over emphasis of form.

Polar opposite - Cancer, the doorway into human experience and mass consciousness.

Message of the Soul
"Lost am I in Light supernal, yet on that Light I turn my back"

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Reply #14 - Mar 13th, 2006 at 10:24am
 
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Spirfire, the message of Scorpio is always needed in the world. In a deeper level it is a dying to the lower self, to ressurect to higher man.

Does this make sense to you?

Chinese astrology is a different form of 'teachings'
and as equally good.  The thing is with Eastern mysticism or philosophy they do not recognise the Christ impulse. (This is another discussion)

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while it makes sense, it seems to me a natural factor of life, from being a child to being an adult. is almost like a dying of beliefs which were held before.

the chinese zodiac works on years, while the western version works by months, ive also seen these combined, as i am a tiger [1986] and scorpio.

how can you prove that astrology is a science, if you dont mind me asking, it's just - alot of the things put out by astrology can be identified by almsot any person.
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