Hi Justin and everyone, Aussie Aussie the book you have written sounds great - well done
Thanks for your reply. You have given me a lot of food for thought. As well as Bruce's teachings; i written a piece for Bruce that is part of another piece (omg!) that i will be posting when the time is right.
Justin, i like the way you think. I hear what you say re our Freewill is bound by our Karma for this is true. Therefore this cannot be called the True Freewill and maybe another word must be found to describe the Freewill under Karma .. um maybe Free Actions rather?
Free Actions sound like a good way of putting it.
Quote:For, one of, the ultimate goals is to attain Freewill in its true sense. No bonds or boundaries, creative energy. Breaking the wheel of Karma; a vast attainment for living in matter, circumstances and influences are ever present and unless we wrap ourselves away in cacoon we will always be subjected to Karma. i believe the truth is found in life experiences anyhow. So i think the breaking out of Karma needs an altered state of the World, as an event of the return of Christ .... maybe.
I agree. As far as the return of the Christ, i believe this will and is happening in different ways. Right now there is an ever burgeoning Christ Consciousness. Some of this is being stimulated by the alignment and merging with the Galactic Core, as well as other even larger cycles being involved (and many more smaller cycles like the Pluto G.C. conjunction).
Christ will return bodily i believe as well, and in that sense he never left. Check out "He/She" the 1800 odd year old of Monroe's last book.
But as far as public appearance of Yeshua, well this will be a 'like attracts like' happening, just as his birth 2000 years ago was.
The Essenes needed to make the way ready for him, and they worked their arses off in preparation for this, if they hadn't, he wouldn't have come like he did.
Will be true for this time around as well, those who are his and love his coming must trample the way by fostering the Christ Consciousness within self, and then in groups, and eventually affected the masses.
My sense is that Yeshua won't show up till a good part of the intense culmination of the changes takes place.
Quote:The Disk I/There is a very good concept. Many energy dynamics in the form of personalities/lifetimes and non-linear. This is avante garde spiritulism that i enjoy. The more i read of the Disk the more it relates to my understanding and ties in with esoteric science and Steiners research. My piece that i will be posting to Bruce is an compliment to him.
In my understanding; your research into Total Self personalities is the realm of Spirit Entities. Our Self is part of the Total Self. We are individual and we are part of a whole. The whole individuality might not necessarily incarnate - Here - as our Total Self/Over Soul remains There.
Our Entity/The Disk is our house/home/realm/level/brothersisterhood.
Thats a good way of putting it. Btw--i've read a couple Steiner books--interesting guy, and if i ever get some farm land, i would like to try do it like the Biodynamic farming methods he talked about.
What are some of his better books in general do you think/feel? If i ever have the money, i would definitely read some more.
Quote:I do think that the zodiac is very much a spiritual realm on the contrary to anti-spiritual though, but i am attaining an understanding here and i would appreciate discussing this further with you.
I hear what you say about the non-influence of the zodiac on earth. And once again appreciate Bruce's teachings of the Probes / part of the Total Self / part of the Disk. i have likened this to the symbol of Pisces; one fish swimming down and one fish swimming up - both connected by a thread.
Well i can't say if Bruce agrees with my theory about the Disk evolution being related the Zodiac 'influence' or indications. That is just my hunch from reading what he shared about the Disk evolution.
I agree, Moen's and Monroe's Disk and I/There theories are quite interesting, but NOT at all avante guarde. There have been Yogi's who have said quite a similar thing way before--that an indivdualy personality as this Justin is not what reincarnates, but rather a Monadic self which exists out of time, of which Justin is connected to and One with.
But Bruce and Bob put a nice and fresh perspective on it, especially introducing the important Retrieval necessity aspect. Where we must gather up all our stuck selves/aspects which is necessary for completion of the Disk into its own Creator God/Goddess state of being. I tend to think of this existence and all my other lives as a practice run, and way of honing Love expression, for this.
Quote:Maybe i am being stuck under the zodical barrier though, and i appreciate this being brought to my attention. In the quest of Total Freewill we cannot look up to Gods or heroes to be totally free.
Dunno, thats something you have reason within self. All i can do is put forth my beliefs. It's all good in the end, and besides, what does it really matter in the end? We both believe in Love, well that's the important thing.
Quote:In my understanding of the zodical constellation; it was formed by raised thought energies in order to lay the foundation of our Earth. The same as what we are doing now; our raised thought energies will create a new zodical constellation. This is a creative process. At the moment though we are still within (not necessarily influenced) but within the zodiac that lay the foundations to this Era.
Possibly, and when it really boils down to it, i really don't know for a fact either way. All i have are the various psychic information from others of which i look for the ones more 'verifed', and then my own intuitive ponderings. I trust Cayce, the various TMI authors, and a few other sources out there (like i think Steiner and Swedonburg were good at what they did).
I've researched Bailey and some other channelers, and do not find much agreement with them on some key (to me) issues.
Quote:We have the potential to create a new zodiac and make it whatever energies we put into it. This will lay the foundation for a future material/matter development, my understanding Jupiter.
Again possibly, either way its a stepping up of the energy. I guess the question is, does the Zodiac represent a limited range of Consciousness and vibratory energy? Cayce, my intuition and experience would say yes.
Pisces to me as the culmination, represnts the fastest vibratory color we see, violet. Yet as fast vibrating as violet is, it is still only a color and represents limitation.
There is no sign (or Planet for that matter--except maybe the Galactic Centers) that represents the White Light, this is as a balance and transcendance of both the Zodiac, Planets, and the Chakras through the cohesive force/energy of Love.
With that said, i'm a big fan of Jupiter. Its the Planet i came in from and is the closest Planet to my Ascendant.
Jovial Jupiter, both sincere yet expansive and well Jovial (course balanced somewhat by being a Capricorn). Jupiter's energy i most connect to a royal purple color vibration, though people use it differently and not always 'purely'. Some who have it strong, use it more in the range of mid-blue, or some more reddish purple (incidentaly this is closer to the Sagittarian frequency).
Quote:This is why, i feel, it is important for us to raise our level of consciousness to a Creative degree of freedom.
Unless ... the Universal time is right to break out of this Solar System cycle of planetary development to go beyond this ...
Somehow though i think these planetary stations will always be needed ....
Totally agree, except for the last part. They will be needed as long as Souls continue to believe the Dream is reality. Once Souls wake up fully, then perhaps they become Creators of their own Constellations, systems, and Souls to inhabit them, to start the process afresh and ever expanding the Creational expression?
Quote:I am very aware of the 'dreamy state' influence of the Moon. Upon saying this i am a romantic and would would hate to think that my romantic notions fall under this Moon state. For i dont believe they do - there is too much 'richness' and creativity and love that goes way over the Moon.
I'm not a big fan of the Moon, i believe there is a good reason why physically it is ever inching away towards leaving the Earth... This is very symbolically important.
But i'm kind of idealistic and dreamy too, but i connect that more to a strong Neptune and Venus force. Also have a moderate Aquarian influence, which is very idealistic.
The Moon is a rather slow vibratory energy, and very much represents material limitation--also very connected to fear, emotional imbalance and instability, and weakness within self.
Quote:For this, my notions do not lean towards an 'matrix' type creation for God is love ...
This, romantic notion, is part of the above posting that i mentioned. i feel i cant post it now as its just throwing to much out into the wind. And i await your reply to my comments here (im learning patience lol)
Well yup, i would say the best way to describe God would be as Love. I'm not sure what you mean by the matrix comments? But while God is Love, and we are of this, we in the dream often choose to manifest unlove and fear, which is as temporary darkness. This has and can be brought to a overriding reality (however unreal in the grand scheme of things).
There's always that ever present law of energy which says, like attracts like. So unlike many who within the New Age community which chant that we are God, and all is God, as if this will awaken them, i believe to fully know God/Source, we must become fully like God--particularly in that whole 'love' department.
As Cayce's Source said, and i very much agree, a person came to show the way perfectly, a perfect pattern--Yeshua.
Quote:Thanks Justin
Have a great weekend. I'll reply on Monday.
Caryn
hope my text writing isnt to big cant seem to make it smaller if i type direct onto the reply .. oh well
And btw, nice to meet you Caryn, i remember you said you were an Aquarian. I know how relative and conditional that desrciption is, but i can't help but say i love Aquarians
Because of my energy, we tend to be attracted to each other like bar magnets! Many people who have been good friends, romantic relationships, etc of mine, have had a powerful Aquarian influence--especially Sun in.
I have Leo Rising/Aquarian Descendant with Venus in Aquarius conjunct the Descendant, and i have a powerful Uranian energy--in the Angular 4th (Scorpio), closely square Venus, and aspected to most of my personal planets.
Being a Capricorn with such indications and with the powerful Jupiter, Uranian, and Neptune energies, i haven't ever felt much like a "Capricorn" in the stereotypical sense--except when younger i had tendencies to depression and of course 'deep' thinking.
Btw--i recently had a deep insight about the Sun cycles as related to the birth of realized and near realized spiritual teachers.
I got this info a little while after having a dream of meditating and merging into the Sun.
If you're interested in this intuiton and info, which talks about the birth of Yeshua and other Initiates like Yogananda, then i can p.m. you the info or send it via email.
Some of these Teachers could very well and rightly be called Solar Gods.
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