Obviously the daily horrorscopes[sic] are total rubbish.

But I don't really know enough about that long term astrology to do with plotting the alignment of Mars, Jupiter etc.
It never sits well with me on the belief front though, maybe something will change my mind about it. However, I would be keen to see your Libra text 

Absolutely amazing info 

Its incredible as I have from a very young age been suseptable to physcic energies, I have a tremendous sense of atmosphere and bad vibes.   One place near where I live called Simister, which is a small farming village that dates back to victorian times, used to make me want to leave in fear, aas I kept getting incredibly scared when entering the village hall.

After some careful investigation I found that about 70 years ago the old hall burnt down in a tragic fire and 8 children were killed.

to be honest the first few paragraphs were hard to grasp but it does make alot of sense and I have just printed it out

Thanks a bunch Augo, and 1 more question how come some ppl behave nothing like their starsigns?

Libra

Air - in which equilibrium is brought about.

This is paramountly the sign of balance and equilibrium on all levels as its symbol illustrates.  Under its influence experiment is made through careful weighing of values, determining and choosing, with the object of resolving the problems of the opposites - for example, those of sex, positive and negative, selfish desire and spiritual aspiration, etc.  Libra is also concerned with establishing of right human relationships, and its influences work to achieve the ultimate equilibrium, the balance between soul and form.

Its methods are the tests and trials of the interplay between soul and personality, and there is frequent swing between the pairs of opposites.  It also brings interlude, pause, as balance is found, pause that can perhaps last for a whole lifetime.  For those on the Path this is not only an interlude but also a prelude, for it is esoterically said both of its polar opposites, Aries, and of itself: "before creation, silence and the stillness of a focussed point."  This applies to Aries in a cosmic and creative sense; and to Libra in an individual and progressive sense.  Libra is said to "guard the secret of balance and equilibrium, and finally to sound the releasing note."

Its particular domains are Justice, Law and Government, and the energy rays which predominate are of the mind; aiding discrimination and right choice, aiding law, order and organisation; and to a lesser degree the ray of intelligent activity.

Exoteric ruler - Venus, bringing the energy ray of mind for assessing, considerating, making choice, judgement and decision.

Esoteric ruler - Uranus, bringing the quality of order, lawfulness and the expression of Spirit through form.

Tasks, goals and opportunities
Libra offers the path of choices.  Under its influence we learn to make decision rightly and remain poised between the pairs of opposites with which the path of evolution is beset; we begin to conduct our lives with some sort of order and balance, instead of being swept by events in all directions.
The goal is to establish equilibrium, achieve that point of central stillness at which the decision of the Scales is made.  It also provides the point for reorientation, refocussing and redirection of effort for the next moving forward on to a higher plane.

The energy of law and order and this quality of balance make Libra a propitious influence for all that is connected with government, world affairs, judgement, law and relationships, whether of international, group or personal dimensions.

The gift of organisation also paves the way - if rightly used - for building the forms through which spirit can manifest.  The Libran period is therefore a good time to reorganise the structures through which we expend our life energy and the patterns and forms of the inner as well as the outer life.

To be guarded against
Indecision, fluctuation, apathy, failure to evoke the will to choose and then follow the way that has been determined upon.

Polar opposite - Aries, with its energy of will, direction and action.

Message of the Soul
"I choose the way that leads between the two great lines of force."

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my love
Caryn

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Hi there Jambo,

I'm not Augo, but i may have some insight into this.

I've studied a Cayce based astrology for awhile now, as well as trying to develop my own system of relating astrology to color vibration, Chakras, auras, etc. 

  To me, there is a difference between the 'Signs' and the Planets..  The Zodiac signs seem to be an illusionary collective emotional human thought form (ha say that 5 times fast), which also represents karmic patterns.

  Interestingly, Cayce said that the signs are in a sense barriers to Universal consciousness--so they are things to overcome. 

In his life readings, there are a percentage of people who got life readings, who said that the "signs" were as the 'wavering' indications--meaning the signs weren't much of an influence or indication.

  Why?  Because they were more spiritually advanced, and starting to overcome personality...  Pisces as a sign, stage, or consciousness represents the 'death' of the personality, or the dissolution of same.

  So that is one reason, someone who is using their spiritual Will positively towards spiritual development, will be less well desribed by their signs.

  Astrology in other words is extremely relative...   Also, there is also the question, perhaps mainstream astrology in general doesn't yet have such a great grasp of astrological principles?

For example and the all important spiritual Will aside, say i'm an ultra earthy with materialistic tendencies Sun sign Taurean, and have a bunch of personal planets in the more self focussed signs (like Aries through Leo)...

  But i also either have Jupiter or Neptune Rising in my chart in or near the 1st house...

  Well spiritual will aside, this will change everything and the person in question is apt to be much more universal in manner, particularly if the fast vibrating planet (like Jupiter, Neptune, to some degree Pluto and Uranus, the Sun, Arcturus) is also in a less self focussed sign (Libra and up, particularly if one of the last 3 signs are involved).

  A planet Rising often becomes a dominating tone or energy in the chart, and can even overshadow the indications of the Sun sign. 

  A good visual that i thought up is that a signs energy is like a diffuse and generalized energy field, kind of like soft background lighting...  whereas a Planets energy is much, much more powerful and concentrated--much more like a laser as compared to that soft background energy...

  In the chart, there is no more sensitive and amplifying area than near the Ascendant degree, and as per Cayce the Planet closest to that is often representive of the dimension we came into the Earth from.   So it takes a powerful hold upon our mental body and nature--these are as nonphysical consciousnesses and experiences.

  Interestingly in my research (i have some auric/color sensitivity), i've noticed that the relative strength of the planets (as opposed to the signs) often powerfully and on average show up in the mental part of the person's aura...   The part of the aura which is associated with our deepest character traits, our deepest thought habits and patterns, and our belief systems.

  So say i'm an Aries Sun sign, which as a tendency, or average would indicate either strong reddish tones, or sometimes bright golden yellow tones, but i have Neptune Rising in my chart...

Well, then i would expect to see much more of the Neptune energy than the Aries, and sure enough i have come across similar cases, and the person has a predominantly bluish violet aura.

  Course its not always so neat and cut and dried as that...

  The single most important factor in any birth chart is the spiritual Will of a Soul, and nothing, absolutely nothing in the chart shows this.  A chart is fixed for when a person is born, since that time, they can have alterred many patterns within the birth chart, i.e. overcome some things, or brought fast vibrating patterns to a slower vibration.

  Vast study!   I also recommend looking into Bruce's info on astrology, and how he talks about the "Big Clock" indications, where the Planning Center uses any material thing which has an observable and constant pattern as sort of hands on a cosmic clock for interweaving time line events (meaning translating nonphysical consciousness desires and energy into 'physical real world time events' i.e. limited linear progressive time lines).

  Interesting stuff.  Also confirms to Cayce's concept that Astrology is not so much about 'causes' as it is more about indications.   Meaning your birth chart is the way it is, not because of when you were born, but rather you were born when you were and with that chart, because of the way you've been in other experiences.  A chart is a map to your karmic patterns and tendencies, but we should aways remember that that's all it is, a map of indications to tendencies and probabilities.

This is a very important distinction..

Peace

  Thanks Marilyn, its good to see you again too. 

  Yeah i've been kind of absent lately, seem to be going through a more reflective, passive, and going within time lately.

  Not feeling overly communicative.

  How have  you been?   Take care, and talk to you later.

With Love,
Justin

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  Well the above i very much disagree on.  Both my intuition and my Cayce studies lead me to believe that the Zodiac is really anti-spiritual in important respects. 

  Though overall, i would call the study of astrology a potentially spiritual subject. 

  I'll try to explain a bit of what i believe this:  First off, i do not believe the constellations actually have a influece or force astrologically speaking. 

  Did you ever read Bruce's Story of Curiosity?  This might help a bit, cause in this story and exploration, Bruce finds out that when his "Probe" (his original Spark or Spirit self) first got 'stuck' within the Earth system, it had numbers upon numbers of dives into physical lives..  and kept getting more and more stuck.   Eventually, the Probe was able to break free enough to remember some of its essence and other life memories, where at first it was much more unconscious. 

  So the Probe kind of pulled a bit away from the powerfully magnetic Earth energies, and decided to make "probes" of its own, connected to and one with it, yet separate and not necessarily aware of being one with the original Probe (or Total self as mentioned before). 

   The Probe realized that many of its other lives, could fall into a pattern of 10, or 12 major patterns/dynamics... 

  This i believe (though Bruce doesn't say this) is how i believe the Zodiac was manifested, and this whole process was a fairly Archetypal one (and became a collective thoughtform of limited vibratory consciousness).   Many, many, many Probes within the Earth system experienced this 'grouping' of its major dynamics. 

  So, in my beliefs, the Zodiac evolved from an ever increasing materialism,  stuckness, and forgetfullness of its True self within the Earth system.   Hence why Cayce referred to them as barriers to Universal Consciousness, or what he often called Christ Consciousness.   

  As we spiritually evolve, we move away from personality patterns. Personality is connected to the false self, and is more of what you want others to see, or what you think of yourself while being unconscious to self to a greater or lesser extent. 

  Our personas, our fronts, our shields, our unconscious, our reactive and manipulative selves.   

   But as a Soul evolves to Christ Consciousness, it drops personality attachments and reactions, its true individuality starts to shine forth more and more, and this Core self isn't so much swayed by the dicates of an uncontrolled emotional self, or the more purely left brained intellectual self.   It responds more and more to everything and everyone on a more centered, balanced, and consistent basis.  Its loses personality likes, dislikes, strong attachments to one or the other, or the repulsion to yet others.

   These are shown well throught the Zodiac signs via Synastry principles, but the Soul living Oneness treats more and more all as their brother and sisters, more equally.   

  Or look at it vibrationally and color wise.  Zodiac signs can be correlated to certain colors, and like any relative vibration, some mix more harmoniously or inharmoniously with others.  Red mixes well with orange, or blue with violet for example.   

   Well Love is the pure White Light, which contains all expressions in a perfectly balanced and harmonious fashion, and so can harmonize with any energy expression, whether of fast or slow vibration.   

  The Zodiac represents the lack of this attunement to Source.  Love and the Spiritual Will of a Soul are meant to eventually transcend these.

  The Planets i look at a bit differently, these are developing and molding centers inbetween lives.   Dimensional experiences, where a Soul immerses its very beingness into that consciousness to balance or strengthen certain aspects of itself, so that it can reach that attunement, and bringing that into physical expression, as we must purify the physical to fully know Source again like Yeshua.  We brought the physical into manifestation, and we must take it out. 

  The Planets are more directly connected to our faster vibrating mental bodies, and the remembrance of these 'sojourns' are as mental consciousnesses within self.

  More spiritually mature Souls invaribly are more aptly described by the relative strength of their Planetary energies, and less so by the 'signs'.   Again, as Cayce said oft, these then become the 'wavering' indications..  the Zodiac and its influence or indication is more relative, than the Planetary energy.   Course they intermesh and intermingle to a degree, but someone using their spiritual will positively, will increasingly untangle themselves more and more from the relative and more material and emotion based reactive, personality type energies.

Take care Caryn,
Justin

hope my text writing isnt to big cant seem to make it smaller if i type direct onto the reply .. oh well  

Hey starstream, Vicky 
Lets see what the teachings of Cancer say-

Cancer

Water - the purificatory waters of experience begin their beneficent work.

A great deal of the message of Cancer is conveyed by the symbol of this sign - the crab, slow moving, identified with its dwelling place and carrying its 'house' upon its back, both on land (the physical plane) and in the sea (symbolising the emotions).

The life pattern of the crab demonstrates the prevailing characteristics of this sign for, like the creature who not only seeks the security of its shell but also likes to hide under a rock, those under its influence are highly sensitive, are apt to be fearful, and prefer to hide away rather than walk openly on the shores of life.  They are home lovers and tend to build a shell around themselves to which, on the first sign of danger they retreat.

The sensitivity which is one of its most prominent characteristics brings instinctual awareness on the level of the environment (the mass) and unification with mass consciousness; this is symbolised by the life of the crab in the sea - oceanic synthesis.  This, however, is the negative response to the influences of this sign which is one of mass consciousness, and is linked with the signs of Virgo (the Christ consciousness) and Aquarius (universal consciousness).  Cancer also has a deeper role in the unfoldment of the divine plan.  It bestows what has been called 'the ability to respond to contacts coming from all points of the compass, and from every angle of the zodical wheel, and from that which is within as well as from that which is without'.

This indicates its potential as an agent of the Life of the Spirit, a function made clear in the keyword given for the soul.  It has a significant role in connection with the law of rebirth, being one of the 'gateways' into life on the form level.  This accounts for its instinct of self preservation.

Exoteric ruler - The Moon, which in this case veils Neptune.  The Moon, being a dead body, has no specific influence of its own, but reflects or veils that of other planets in a mysterious way.  Ancient association gives it a quality of 'at-one-ing energy' which achieves through the medium of conflict.

Esoteric ruler - Neptune, a mysterious and esoteric planet, which has great influence upon the astral and buddhic vehicles, enhancing the Cancerian receptivity.  It carries an energy of an expression of the Law of Service.  It is also one of the synthesising planets, again emphasising mass consciousness. 

Tasks, goals and opportunities
These are paramountly creation or expression on the form level; the transmutation of sensitivity; resolution of isolation; service to the whole.
The opportunity and form of service of this sign is summarised clearly by the soul's message.  In it lies opportunity to create 'a lighted house' not only on the form level but on higher levels also - a form which will irradiate light, be it a home, an enterprise, an organisation, a literary or artistic production or the personal life.

To be guarded against
The building of a hard shell and withdrawing into it and hiding in it instead of creating a 'lighted house' and shinning forth its light.  Over-sensitivity; being swayed by mass-consciousness (the surrounding ocean of feeling and thought forms).  Rigidity and slowness to move.

Polar opposite - Capricorn, the mountain goat, which climbs upon the rocky mountain side determinedly to reach the mountain-top.

Message of the Soul
'I build a lighted house and therein dwell'.
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Cancer does sound like the traits you mentioned as well as empathy; Life of the Spirit - the Lighted House is awesome. What do you think Vicky?