Michael Newton speaks of soul groups rather than discs. However, in his second book, he speaks of a presence that attends meetings that spirits have with a council of elders (I can't remember the page number, check under "oversoul" in the index). If you read what is written about the "presence," it sounds very much like a higher self consciousness.

It may be that a higher self in a disc context isn't spoken of a lot, because not everybody is ready to find out that there is an awareness other than God that is intimately aware of their life.

Other people who have spoken about the higher self viewpoint similar to how Bruce Moen speaks of it include Rawn Clarke, Joachim Wolf, and perhaps Mellen-Thomas Benedict in his near death experience.  A little after World War II Joachim had a vision where he saw that reality is divided up into different dimensions/levels, and what he saw has a lot in common with what Bruce Moen saw when he saw multiple discs.


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"Kindred souls gravitate towards each other spontaneously...for with each other they feel as though they are with their own family (HH 44),"

ES discovers that the phenomenon of group souls is the culmination of the increasingly mental life of the heavens.  One stage of this is the eventual melding of earthly soul mates into an androgyne.

Similary, in classical channeling, the group soul is not like the Monroe/Moen soul disk composed of multiple selves of the same soul unit.  Rather, the group soul is composed of originally distinct kindred souls with the same purpose.  Yet this channeled conception might easily be confused with Bruce Moen's soul disk concept.  For example, consider this quote form Paul Beard, "Living On," p. 135:

"The group as a whole is in a real sense a soul also, a group soul, and [the discarnate person] is in very truth part of this soul.  The bond, the common purpose, will not all be seen in a flash....[but] will be carried out gradually, until the various parts are gathered together and made a whole."  

This alternative understanding may be the key to solving a significant contradiction between Bruce Moen and Robert Monroe.  Moen claims to be part of the same soul Disk as Monroe.  But Monroe is astrally informed that he has only one parallel incarnation--a female one.  He is also told that "she would seem like a long-lost sister (UJ 174)."  Moen reports no such intimacy in his earthly encounter with Monroe.  Perhaps, Moen, Monroe, and even this unknown female are distinct and separate souls destined to participate in a group soul in the Swedenborgian sense.  If so, there is no such thing as retrieving portions of one's self.

Thanks for all of your replies, especially Bruce and Marilyn.  I apologize to not responding sooner but I am currently dealing with some health issues that make it difficult to sit at the computer for very long.  Sometimes it is more difficult than at other times.  This is another reason that I am less interested than usual in comparing and contrasting different perspectives.  I am more interested in learning to work with the information and tools that Robert Monroe and Bruce have and are giving us to learn more about my own consciousness and shifting my focus to other levels of awareness.  In part I want to be able to contribute more to the ‘here and now’ and also to explore the afterlife, to both be better prepared when it is time for me to move beyond the physical body for good and perhaps in the meantime to learn how to assist those who are now in need of help in making the transition from this reality to the next.  It seems to me that from what both Robert and Bruce have experienced and shared there is certainly lot to learn and lots to do in the afterlife and there is much that we can learn and bring back to make this level a better place in so many ways.

<Oh, which Disk do you mean?>

I guess the disk I was speaking of would be the one you talk about in chapter five of Charting Unknown Territory when you speak about a curl’s level of awareness being constricted when it (we) come into physical world reality so that we will be able to focus on what we came to do rather than being constantly being bombarded by the M-band noise.

I appreciate your comments and will give them some thought.

Thanks Marilyn for your comments, also. I think I will try to observe on the retrieval, dream forum and partnered exploration forums for a time.  I seem to not be having a lot of recall in any of these areas so I was not sure if I was ready to join in yet.  Perhaps if I just observe for a while I will pick up some helpful things.  I would certainly be open to any help that anyone has to offer.  As I said I have read Robert Monroe’s books and Bruce’s books and have worked with many of the tapes so I have the information. I just do not seems to be able to recall it if I am successfully shifting into the other level’s of consciousness. 

Hi When i pass over into the spirit world i would flatly refuse to reincarnate. I would never want to come back again not ever. God bless juditha

Hi Recoverer thanks for your reply. Iread the near death experiences ive learnt quite a lot. My father had a NDE experience once when he died and they ressucitated him. He said he felt like he was floating and felt like he was surrounded by this warm grey mist. He could see this bright white light in the distance and he was getting closer and closer to it. Then he felt this pain and he was opening his eyes.4 years after that experience he died but he never forgot about it while he was still alive. God bless juditha