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Has reading about shamans taught u? (Read 7329 times)
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Re: Has reading about shamans taught u?
Reply #15 - Jan 31st, 2006 at 4:11pm
 
RE: Reptillians in the collective unconscious,
Could another possibility be that all life forms (mammals, amphibians, plants even etc.) contribute to the CU, and always have?  So we could be inheriting all the thoughts of all?  Once in a while in our conscious contacts with the CU we come across some current from these entries?
Then the more we evolve, or are fruitful and multiply, the more creative possibilities are added to the CU? 
We can then choose which part of the CU we wish to exist in, maybe C1 standard or C1 sub standard, or if we put our minds to it, F35? Reading thru entries on this website brings alot more people into these realms of possibilities. You all do a great service.
My only previous contact with a shaman was thru the Castanedas books, but I know he and you all here have opened realms of possibility for me and I never want to go back to the way I was.---Thank you!
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Reply #16 - Jan 31st, 2006 at 6:08pm
 
Before we get into a digression about who saw what and when, and what could it have meant, it might be useful to look at the idea that there is some kind of collective function in which we all participate. Society is only one example. Jung suggested that this idea leads us back to a common collective experience in our primal past. That's the same past as the Bible, its critics, and all of us share, together with various worms and crawly critters.

If you ike the Big Bang, then maybe this is a way to look at it - In the beginning there was a single point event, and it expanded its nature, diversifying into all the wonderful funiture of space and time and the Taoist's "ten thousand things". We are among those diversified projections of the one initial event. Thus, we are all the same as the initial event, but extended into various viewpoint of how it might look. Our individuality has developed  out of that single common experience, which is the collective unconscious of Jiung, as well as the historical background from which our world has emerged.

Other than issues of how stuff emerges, Jung's model is like all the others.  So is the Revelations approach, Harner's recall, your own ability to reall past lives, and the inner world of spiritul events in which we go about rescuing earthbound spooks.

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Reply #17 - Feb 8th, 2006 at 10:35am
 
OK I have an empty aluminum pan that was headed for the recycling pile and I have a faucet that easily drips. I just can't control the rate.

So, so far lying in the dark with the water dripping on the pan...seems like I move into a reverie state easier. I keep running into my own fears (I think) ...( OK I keeo thinking of spiders) ....but at the same time this is somehow physically pleasant, though I'm not sure why.

Anyone else besides Dave tried this?

(Harner still sells CD's according to his web site)
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