Matthew,

The post about Chumley was meant in jest.  But both Chumley and Spitfire routinely ridicule other people's beliefs, especially those of Christians.   For this, they are never deleted--evidence of a double moderating standard.   New Agers here often overlook or chime in on these invectives, but object to anyone who gives the attackers a taste of their own medicine and does so with clinical rationality.   As the saying goes, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.  

In the quest for afterlife knowledge, people need to be taught the need to acknowledge their limitations--i. .e. the line between what they do and don't know.  I will not resort to insults or name-calling.  But for the benefit of those Chumley and Spitfire attack, I will confront them in the future with the inadequacies of their claims, and do so in a manner relevant to the purpose of this site.  

Don

Once again, don the mighty passes judgement based on "his" views.

maybe they wer'nt deleted because you were wrong? but dont worry, i know that cant be the case.

Im open to proof god exists, tell me how to meet him, give me a location and time, a place, i'll be there.

Your storys about jesus healing a heathen muslim, aint gonna convert me to christianity, it's the same as a nazi healing a jew, the jew aint gonna become a nazi.

The bible is full of contradictions, fact. Heres a few



Theres hundreds more, and yes theres the typical argument of the book was written by man..

The full bible was written by man, you cant tell whats right and whats wrong, so you either believe a full section of the bible, or you dont. Picking and choosing bits you like, is just being hypocritical.

Unless you can prove, sections of the bible, by re-creating events described there?

If you pray for a mountain to move and it does, believe you and me, i would be down to church ever sunday.

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I doubt that my friend, religous fanatics only stop beliving in god, when something bad happens in there lifes, hardcore skeptics need a personalised 100% pucca miracle to convert to christianity.

Each are rare, therefore no mans land remains forever active.

But, at least im fighting for myself and my own beliefs, and not having someone force me over the top  8)

Spit, thanks for the additional ammunition for your eventual reckoning.   Ha! I can feel your terror in your incoherent ravings.    Bone up! You'll need it, my friend!  Though you are an ex-boxer, I'll wager that you don't even realize that Muhammad Ali is the most overrated heavyweight champion of all time.  I'll straighten you out on that score too.

Don

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Im still a boxer.

Muhammed ali, had some dam good quality's, show me a boxer which could take a blow better. But he is also an example of what happens to someone who gets sucked into religon.

Terror? look at yourself, i asked you 1 simple question and you cant even answer it, and you've been studying the bible since the jurassic, your the ones who scared bub.

Spit,

You claim to have asked me one simple question.  Wrong!  You posed an incoherent array of comments googled from kooky online posters without credentials in the field.  You remind me of a fighter who feigns good defense by racing away from his opponent to avoid specific contact.   But as Joe Louis said, "You can run, but you can't hide."
I will decisively deal with your comments on Christianity in due time.  You know very well that you can only get away with your chirping now because I've made a commitment to development my mediumship thread first.    But your reckoning is coming!

Speaking of boxing, let me clue you in about Muhammad Ali (formerly Cassius Clay).  Ringside experts agree that he really lost his tune-up fight for Sonny Liston, a split-decision win against journeyman Doug Jones.   The Liston fight was scheduled and Ali (Clay) was Olympic champion; so he had to win.   Even George 'Chuvalo had KOd Jones.     To put the 2nd Liston-Clay fight in perspective, it must be noted that Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams had recently broken Liston's jaw without even phasing him before being KOd.  Yet in the 2nd Ali fight, one must replay the tape a few times just to determine that the Ali punch that stopped Liston actually landed.   at best it was a weak love tap.  In the first fight, Liston simply refused for no good reason to come out for round 6.  Both LIston-Clay  fights were tank jobs either because of mob connections or because Liston was drugged out.  Apart from that, Ali never beat any first-rate fighters before his draft problems. 

Joe Frazier was a better fighter than Ali, despite losing 2 of their 3 fights.   Both were in or close to their primes only in their first fight won by Frazier.  After that fight, Frazier's sparring partners admitted that he was only 2/3 of the fighter he was before the Ali fight.  He was a washed-up fighter for Ali-Frazier II and III, and so, twice got quickly KOd by George Foreman.   True, Ali was close to his best longer than Frazier.  But when I evaluate boxers, I ask who was the best at his best.   The answer is Frazier, not Ali.   

Don

I made statements, and asked 1 question.



You remind me of a fighter, whos talks big at a press conferance, and does'nt turn up on the day of the fight because of a cold.

im sorry, if you have some handy cap, which stops you from posting on 2 different threads, i did'nt know about it, if you send me the name of this condition i'll go look into the symptoms, so i can better understand this funny ailment.

You forget to mention in the liston fight, ali was blinded by a foriegn substance, once his tears managed to get rid of it, he owned liston, who then gave up and later claimed a dis-located shoulder.

If you compare ali's and fraziers stats

Ali
Total Fights: 61
Wins: 56
lost: 5
Knockouts: 37
Champion: 3 times.

Frazier
Total Fights: 37
Won: 32
Lost: 4
Draw: 1
Champion 1 time.

Frazier had to beat some dam good fighters to get the second and 3rd fights, he was far from washed up, altogether ali had a better career, he fought and won more fights, he held the title 3 times, he used the media and his own confidence/talents to gain fame and he used the fame for cause's to which he believed in. Thats why he's called the champ.