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Reply #15 - Jan 21st, 2006 at 6:07pm
 
Deanna said:
spitfire dont you read that ever again i dont believe a word of it and you didnt ought to either your only a young man so people play on your vunerability satan will try anything to turn yuou from god and thats what he trying to do here god loves his children its satan what does all those terrible things please believe me i am 50 yrs old i,ve been on this earth longer than you and you are much wiser as you get older not so vunerable to this sort of thing god bless deanna
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Well, Deanna... I'm 37 y/o and much of the material on that "evil bible" page makes more sense to me today, than it did when I was Spit's age.
When I'm 90 y/o, I hope it will make even MORE sense to me.
Why? Because unlike most people (apparently!) I wasn't gotten hold of by preachers/priests when I was a kid. (I had the good fortune to be raised by a father who despised the very idea of "church" and wouldn't let my mother take me there!)
As a result, I didn't get brainwashed. Nowadays I'm able to see organized religion for the RACKET that it is. And I'd say that puts me among the world's more FORTUNATE people...

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Reply #16 - Jan 21st, 2006 at 6:25pm
 
hi b man its up to you what you believe but i will always believe in god  i wasnt brought up to believe in god my dad before he died wasnt a believer or non believer really he kept it mainly to himself it was kind of personal for him my mum still dosent believe but i do i have had my own experiences of the afterlife  ,different things whats happened to prove their is life after death  when i was younger i never thought about god much at all but i have been throgh a lot of not very nice things in my life and i turned to god and i,m glad i didd cause i know he loves me its not him what causes suffering its the other one [satan] what does that      but anyway b man   youve got your beliefs i,ve got mine  deanna
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Reply #17 - Jan 21st, 2006 at 9:09pm
 
Re: the kingdom of God on earth

I believe the kingdom of God on earth is, right now, in each of our hearts. Remember who we are, that we are human beings who are capable of acts of love limited only to our imagination.

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Reply #18 - Jan 22nd, 2006 at 5:12pm
 
Guys, hey, hey. Do we have to make a thing out of this?

Listen. Even if the God of the Old Testament did some bad stuff, Jesus is what's referred to as the New Covenant, okay? (Covenant meaning promise, or agreement.) I believe that God will never, ever do something like that again, if God did it in the first place.

I have my doubts about how true the Old Testament is, but I have no doubt that God is love, whatever form he chooses to take.

Don't listen to people who only say "the truth" in order to fling mud at others - they obviously have their minds pretty shut to "the truth," you know what I mean? Especially since they can't seem to understand the concept of a metaphorical parable. Honestly, atheists. It's all or nothing with those people. "You can't actually move mountains, Jesus lied!" -_- *sigh*

Also: Satan is not a dancing red satyr with a pointy tail and horns. Never forget that. Satan is The Enemy, and it will take the most alluring, beautiful form it can find to worm its way into your heart. The Enemy in itself is not a man - it is not Lucifer, a fallen angel, whatever. It is the essence of hate and pain and fear.
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Reply #19 - Jan 22nd, 2006 at 7:39pm
 
Since we are all a part of God..and all God in actuality, the "kingdom" always has been here..
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Reply #20 - Jan 24th, 2006 at 1:56am
 
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Guys, hey, hey. Do we have to make a thing out of this?

Listen. Even if the God of the Old Testament did some bad stuff, Jesus is what's referred to as the New Covenant, okay? (Covenant meaning promise, or agreement.) I believe that God will never, ever do something like that again, if God did it in the first place.

I have my doubts about how true the Old Testament is, but I have no doubt that God is love, whatever form he chooses to take.

Don't listen to people who only say "the truth" in order to fling mud at others - they obviously have their minds pretty shut to "the truth," you know what I mean? Especially since they can't seem to understand the concept of a metaphorical parable. Honestly, atheists. It's all or nothing with those people. "You can't actually move mountains, Jesus lied!" -_- *sigh*

Also: Satan is not a dancing red satyr with a pointy tail and horns. Never forget that. Satan is The Enemy, and it will take the most alluring, beautiful form it can find to worm its way into your heart. The Enemy in itself is not a man - it is not Lucifer, a fallen angel, whatever. It is the essence of hate and pain and fear.



The problem with this is. You can't throw away one half of the bible as un-true, and the other half true. To me thats just simply saying "Oh, i like the whole Jesus-love thing, but not the whole angry wrath of god".

The WHOLE bible was "inspiried" by the holy spirit, One of the Three parts of god. You can't just pick the good parts of the bible, and disregard the other.

The fact is Religion is the bane of man-kind(Along with many other things..). More people have died from religous inspiried wars/ideology than not.

I also heard that the Vatican recently changed, and got rid of "Limbo". wtf? http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0506867.htm

If limbo was just a theory, what else was?

I sure most of you have heard of Leslie Flint, I think he is important, because he willingly went under tests and passed them.

Here is a site with a lot of Direct Voice recording links/info. Oddly enough, alot of these people/spirits talk about how Religious people have the hardest time passing over.

http://www.astralpulse.com/directvoicerecordings.html
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Reply #21 - Jan 24th, 2006 at 5:31pm
 
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The problem with this is. You can't throw away one half of the bible as un-true, and the other half true. To me thats just simply saying "Oh, i like the whole Jesus-love thing, but not the whole angry wrath of god".


Sorry, but says who? I don't care what it says to you, it's my belief. I don't have to justify it to you or anyone, it's between me and God. I didn't say the entire first half of the bible was falsehood. They had a very, very different opinion of what (or who) a God was, and from a historical standpoint it's very questionable. It's important to look at the cultural situation around the times when all the books were written.

They got rid of Limbo because a) they wanted to believe that God was merciful enough to send aborted/stillborn/unbaptized babies to heaven instead of an eternity in limbo, and b) because it was a hypothesis to begin with, and there's no mention of it in the bible. It's strictly Catholic. It has nothing to do with the rest of Christianity, and I applaud them heartily for having the guts to come out and say they were wrong.

The fact is, hate is the bane of mankind. Greed is the bane of mankind. Fear is the bane of mankind. Ideas, concepts and institutions born out of love and the search for knowledge and enlightenment are only a bane when they succomb to one of those three aspects.
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Reply #22 - Jan 31st, 2006 at 5:13pm
 
my beleif is that we are already living in hell quote the saying hell on earth and when we die we pass over to heaven were there is only love and  beauty which is what god wanted for us on the earth  a lot of it was eves fault she ate the apple from the tree of life in the garden of eden  because she listened to the serpent instead of listening to god which changed everything for mankind god loves us all very much thats why he sent his beloved son jesus to die and suffer on the cross so that we may be saved i could not live my life without god  i love him and ive always beleived in him and we have to resist the devil when he trys to tempt us away from god  i pray to him many times and he always answers my prayers god loves you all god bless you juditha
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Reply #23 - Jan 31st, 2006 at 5:29pm
 
Dont wanna upset your or anything, but eve never existed, adam never existed and jesus dieing for our sins is the biggest load of cods wallop ever put down on paper.

2 people cannot start a race.
A planet cannot form complex life in 7 days
The 7 day week, never existed until a few thousand years ago, so god did'nt rest on sunday.
The bible is pretty much a book of evil [read www.evilbible.com]

other then that, christianity aint to bad.

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Reply #24 - Jan 31st, 2006 at 7:30pm
 
spitfire u shouldnt read all that garbage about the evil bible its not true  but i,ve said  that before and i must be getting on your nerves but what i say is true that evil bible is evil in its self and a load of lies deanna
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Reply #25 - Jan 31st, 2006 at 7:36pm
 
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spitfire u shouldnt read all that garbage about the evil bible its not true  but i,ve said  that before and i must be getting on your nerves but what i say is true that evil bible is evil in its self and a load of lies deanna


What it says is actually in the bible, it does'nt make the stuff up - if you believe in the christian god, you gotta accept the good the bad and the ugly, or you dont believe in god, and make your own book of rules - i would reccomend this option.
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Reply #26 - Jan 31st, 2006 at 8:00pm
 
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Dont wanna upset your or anything, but eve never existed, adam never existed and jesus dieing for our sins is the biggest load of cods wallop ever put down on paper.

2 people cannot start a race.
A planet cannot form complex life in 7 days
The 7 day week, never existed until a few thousand years ago, so god did'nt rest on sunday.
The bible is pretty much a book of evil [read www.evilbible.com]

other then that, christianity aint to bad.




I don't think the bible is inheritly evil, but there were some very evil things that did take place. To me religion is like a really big support group, to make people feel special. Problem is when you have several other forms of generally the same message, it will create conflict, IE: middle east.

I certainly wouldn't take what i read in the bible or in any other religious book with to much seriousness. After all, MAN created religion, not 'god'.

The whole Adam and Eve story is nothing more than a 'folktale', as many of the stories/parables in the bible. To say that you HAVE to follow the bible to get into heaven/eternal life is pretty demanding, especially if you were born or raised in a place where religion did not exsist.

One of my biggest questions is, if religious books/stories did not exsist, would there be the same world wide beliefs? would we believe in a 'god' like depicted in the bible? god trusts that we got the message some thousand years ago?

The bible had a good set of underlined morals, as far as i'm concerned that about all it was. That and a form of entertainment with all of the different stories.

Deanna, those lines are taken straight from the good book. It may not be 'evil' but some bad stuff did 'happen'.

Fundimental religious-types are a dangerous breed so be careful how literal you take everything. Just my two cents.
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Reply #27 - Feb 1st, 2006 at 10:20am
 
hi spifire thankyou for your reply i beleive the planet started with a collision but my beilf is that god took our planet over after a while to create life by that i mean people and animals because if it was all down to the planet createing life then we wouldnt have a spirit only god could have created spirit  not the planet we were made in gods image god lives inside of us hes everywhere  the sky trees flowers etc without his love this planet would be a evil place to live on beleive in god spitfire  he loves you even though you dont beleive  he sees whats in your heart he sees the true you like he does all of us we cant say this and that to god because he knows if we truly mean it  god bless juditha
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Reply #28 - Feb 1st, 2006 at 10:46am
 
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hi spifire thankyou for your reply i beleive the planet started with a collision but my beilf is that god took our planet over after a while to create life by that i mean people and animals because if it was all down to the planet createing life then we wouldnt have a spirit only god could have created spirit  not the planet we were made in gods image god lives inside of us hes everywhere  the sky trees flowers etc without his love this planet would be a evil place to live on beleive in god spitfire  he loves you even though you dont beleive  he sees whats in your heart he sees the true you like he does all of us we cant say this and that to god because he knows if we truly mean it  god bless juditha


Can you send me your address? i know a good brain washing re washer, who can save you!

We evolved from apes, how this happened is open to interpretation.

God loves no one, because he does not exist, in any form which holy books describe anyway.

Free yourself from the church's hold upon thee! cast out the demon which is religon and be saved!

Your 16, young and frisky go experience life, have fun - judge yourself and dont be judged.
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Reply #29 - Feb 1st, 2006 at 2:01pm
 
Juditha,

Like Chumley, Spitfire is virtually illiterate about biblical teaching.   After developing my new thread on mediumship, I will make constructive use of both as my whipping boys for a new thread based on a collection of their many erroneous claims.    Angry   Meanwhile, let them tremble in ominous anticipation.  Grin

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