I've wondered: since birds, dogs, cats, tigers, lions, ect, communicate with each other, I wonder if they ever "talk" about spirit/God/afterlife matters?

Think about it. Dolphens are said to be the smartest (if not smarter) animals next to humans. I wonder if they ever wonder when they see an animal or fish die: "I bet his spirit is floating out of his body and back to Heaven."

I've wondered this for a while. I wonder if animals have thoughts about spirits or God. It would be very odd to find out that lions, tigers, dogs, ect, have spirit mediums amongst their own. In addition, animals can sense things that humans can't.

Your opinions?

Hi Bets,

Amazing story there about your dogs, Ive always been very interested in this subject area as I myself have experienced some paranormal stuff with dogs.

When I was younger my auntie had a dog called Max who is now in spirit who I adored and was inseperable from.  One evening when all of our family was together for my late nan's 80th birthday, I noticed that Max was jumping up in thin air as if it was greeting a person and was "playing" with this person, being only 7 years old I panicked and told my mum who was intrigued by it. 

The possibilities with this one are endless as I have a handful of relatives who are in spirit who could of payed my nan a special visit for her birthday! 

I had a dream this past night where I saw flock of birds land in a tree.they were cherping and I seemed to know what they were saying.They said we want water.so I got some pots,filled them with water,and they all came and drank.Love George

Its amazing what dogs can do.

Support dogs can be trained for people with epilepsy. These dogs can detect that the owner will have a epileptic fit 20-45 mins before they have one!

How do they do this? Wouldnt people want to know how?

It seems not. The website that trains them says its unclear how they do it and then says its probably down to subtle differences in the persons behaviour or maybe scent ... wha? 45 mins before they have a fit?

They cant say maybe telepathy because if people see that then the dogs become a joke and the Skeptic brigade will be banging down their door. So in order for them to make some money they just put down a few more accepted explanations even though they havent be tested.

These dogs are potentially saving peoples lives yet how they do it cannot be studied due to the religion of modern science.

However, look up Rupert Sheldrake and read some of the experiments he's done on dogs that know when their owner is coming home, animals that detect earthquakes up to a day before they occur, and a parrot that has proven that it can read its owners mind.

Now the possibilites open up.

If animals can detect things we cannot see and are not constrained to physical time what else is not constrained to time?

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I mean that their perceptions would appear not to be constrained to physical time. Im not talking about Dr who style time travelling Canines


Have you heard of the blue tits and the milk bottle tops?

In England 1921, it was first reported that a Blue Tit (this is a bird, people; stop that) had torn off the cover of a milk bottle on someone’s front step to drink the cream at the top. Other local birds began adopting that habit and soon it was a point of interest for birders to report and document. The Blue Tit habit was nationwide by 1947. Although these birds only travel as far as 15 miles, the habit was also taken up by Blue Tits in Scandinavia and Holland. In Holland, due to the German occupation, milk bottles were not delivered to houses for eight years. Despite the fact that Blue Tits only live for three years, when milk was again delivered to homes in 1948, within a matter of months Blue Tits throughout Holland were tearing caps off the milk bottles

But blue tits only live for around 3 years, so how did they remember the trick so quickly?

Dog that know when there owner is another one. If the owner follows a routine work pattern then mystery solved obviously. What about people who dont have a coming home pattern?

Well take a look at this:-

http://www.sheldrake.org/papers/Animals/dogvideo_abs.html

That is what i mean.

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No back peddling, I just worded what I meant rubbish the first time.

Ok this is just me thinking and typing at the same time.

In my view the current understanding of our  human physical world through a human is 3d + 1t. I believe that animals also share elements of this reality but are not so restricted by it.  We are animals so we are not so restricted by it either. Yet because we have had the "benefit" of an education we naturally percieve what we are taught to believe. By this I mean we focus our view into a perception that suits both our social and physical environment.  We are influenced by other factors such as radiation, gravity, magnetism yet cannot perceive them using our own senses. 

Light is not constrained by time. Does this mean that light ignores time? Does this mean that time is a constraint or a perception?

Now the dog/owner thing could be based on time or could be based on the owners thoughts. The experiments Sheldrake has done implies more of a link or bond between the dog and owner which could rule out the dogs perceiving the event in advance. Sheldrake talks of morphic fields, fields that are based on habit and repeated events(Not really doing the theory justice there but that is the basics). So the blue tits share a unified conscious field where by they tap into a shared collection of experiences. Is this conscious restricted to physical time?

The other notable experiment is the rats in the maze. Rats that have had no physical contact with other rats that have done a maze do notably better in that same maze after.

So looping back to my point about animals not being constrained to physical time I mean that it doesn’t constrain itself to a time waiting pattern as it doesn’t know when the owner is coming home.

So it either has a mechanism to perceive the event in advance or draws on the intention of the owner to come home. If it does either, it is doing something that we do not accept because we confine our selves to only what we know at present about our physical reality. We can try to explain it using what we know about our reality now but nothing can explain it.

These ideas seem crazy as a whole sometimes and its easy to dismiss them. Yet the fact remains that dogs will still know when there owner is coming home and will still detect epileptic seizures up to 45 minutes before they occur whether you dismiss these ideas or not.

Hi deanna,
If the dog was barking in an upset way, would that indicate an unfriendly spirit or just an intruder of any kind?
Getting off topic--Do members of a Spiritualist Church have more opportunity to meet spirits because spirits hang around there and members' homes. Since they get more attention there so the spirits don't get so bored ?  When they contact you, are they just visiting briefly and then they return to a spirit plane on their own?
thanks , bets

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Bets, a spiritualist church is not a spirit drop-in centre!!!

Often spirits don't even turn up at a clairaudience meeting, this is what gives mr skeptic a chance to slag and trash their peaceful way.

But I have seen it happen, and believe me, it was 100% geniune