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Re: Creating things in the spirit world
Reply #15 - Jan 15th, 2006 at 11:49pm
 
Does everyone know what non-physical means?
to say the spirit world and afterlife has physical attributes shows the greatest problem with these ideas.
When you are dead, you are not holding a sense of smell, sight, touch, taste, hearing, or thinking.
you do not percieve physical manifestations. 
An astral body is a physical manifestation.
We percieve physically while alive, and we translate things like dreams and imagination into a physical manifestation.
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When you are dead you are not holding these physical senses. You are shedding them.
BUT, you may hold onto physical imagery during that temporary proccess of transition from physical to non-physical. But once the transition is complete, you are no longer 'physical' and holding a physical projection.

But all throughout history, especially egyptians...one translation is they are into believing that they need their material in the afterlife. That they need their physical possessions, because they will be in a physical afterlife. 
Now, is this idea correct?
our conceptions of heaven or the spirit world are mostly visualized and imagined in physical yet loftier resemblence to this world.
Physical attempts to describe the afterlife.

Try to describe a non-physical existence without being physical in the description.
Thats why no-one understands death and spirit. 
Because its very difficult to comprehend non-physical existence.
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Re: Creating things in the spirit world
Reply #16 - Jan 16th, 2006 at 2:33am
 
Quote:
Does everyone know what non-physical means?
to say the spirit world and afterlife has physical attributes shows the greatest problem with these ideas.
When you are dead, you are not holding a sense of smell, sight, touch, taste, hearing, or thinking.
you do not percieve physical manifestations. 
An astral body is a physical manifestation.


Basically, the astral body and dream body is probably the same thing. So what we see in the afterlife, is probably imagination.

I have, however, astral projected by accident many times, and saw other 'starry' beings with my astral vision on... I guess God or Nature put those starry beings on the astral plane to live there. On the astral plane, or higher astral planes, the energy looks starry or sparkles.

As for afterlife/Heaven buildings and houses, perhapes they are completely different to anything we know about today. Centuries ago people thought the earth was flat... than they were proved wrong. It's like in lucid dreams... we aren't doing it psychically, but it's happening anyway non-psychically.
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Reply #17 - Jan 16th, 2006 at 11:04am
 
Hey P.A.,

I tried picturing all these places that you created as a whole, and I must admit I liked what I saw.  Sort of reminds me of my house...early eclectic!   Tongue

So what's wrong with eclectic?  Why not create all of them, each adjoing the other, in one place?  I am guessing here that each one of the places holds some interest for you or else why would you have created them?  From what I call tell, this area is certainly vast enough to do this and to keep adding on or subtracting as one wishes.

I have been thinking about doing this myself.  Who knows what I will end up with, but enough diversity  should keep it interesting and hopefully to provide a "something for everyone" type of place that visitors, deceased or not, might enjoy visiting.   Grin

Thanks for the "reminder" and the inspiration, P.A.
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Reply #18 - Jan 16th, 2006 at 4:44pm
 
hi jambo at the spiritualist church you learn so many things ,one paticular time we had a medium on and the medium said that two spirit dogs had come through and honestly and truly jambo i heard these dogs running round as plain as day i was even surprised with myself when i heard them it was quite an experience i even heard these spirit dogs panting as well ,also i sat in circle one evening and we all closed our eyes and we had to be very quiet then all of a sudden i heard footsteps  like somebody walking in between each one of us i must admit i was a bit frightened but then i thought if i want to be a medium i have got to be braver  i mean i had already seen my dad and my aunty in spirit and i wasnt frightened then but then i realised the reason i was frightened of the footsteps because i didnt know this person from spirit  i have had someone holding my hand when i,m in bed ,not every night but some nights i woke one time and saw someone at the end of my bed  i,ve had spirit talking in my ear as well ,all this i,ve told you jambo is all true may god be my witness  deanna
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Reply #19 - Jan 16th, 2006 at 4:48pm
 
hi spooky the thing i  would want most when i go to the spirit world is to give my dad who i loved so much a big hug its been 5 years since he died and i miss him so much still deanna
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Reply #20 - Jan 16th, 2006 at 5:27pm
 
Yes, Deanna, I see. I like to think he knows how much you love him, and when you just give him a hug in your mind, it could help you.
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Reply #21 - Jan 16th, 2006 at 6:00pm
 
thanks spooky i will try that deanna
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