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Spitfire

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Ouija Board's
Jan 3^rd, 2006 at 7:58pm

Just wondering if anyone has tried them?

Ive heard the storys, about only getting bad spirits etc, but im not really fussed if i get an axe murderer, aslong as i get some proof of the paranormal.

Can you do it by yourself? even though i would probley be scared to death the first time, but like everything you get used it to if you put yourself through it enough times.

Seems, from what ive read, it does'nt matter if your a muslim extremist to a total athiest, quijia boards produce the goods?

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Re: Ouija Board's
Reply #1 - Jan 3^rd, 2006 at 8:23pm

I've heard that they are best used with a group.
The reason being, that if you use one yourself, you're never quite sure if it was YOU moving the "planchette" thingy, or "something else." Our minds can play tricks on us, and we'll think we are being influenced when we are not. Alone, your natural skepticism may also prevent any "results" from occurring (not what I think you want to happen..!)
With a group, there would likely be a better influence by the "collective unconscious" or what have you (I'm just theorizing here, mind you.)
BTW, most of the horror stories about Ouija boards seem to come from Christian fundies and the like (who are likely to have preconceived notions of "evil" regarding the things. ) In any case, if you're scared to use one alone... I'd advise you to avoid doing it until you can get some friends together (preferably open minded ones) as the unconscious mind will occasionally manifest fears it it feels "alone" or without back-up of some kind... hope this is useful to you. After you get comfortable with it (AND you're confident that it's more than just superstitious drivel, so you have BELIEF in it) you might want to try using it alone.

Just my $0.02,
B-man

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Spitfire Ex Member	Re: Ouija Board's Reply #2 - Jan 3^rd, 2006 at 8:52pm You ever had a go with one chum?
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Rob_Roy Super Member Offline Posts: 539 New Hampshire, USA Gender:	Re: Ouija Board's Reply #3 - Jan 3^rd, 2006 at 9:02pm My guides blew off the one I bought a while back. Totally ignored it. I didn't try it for anything else and I'm not going to. I'll throw it away pretty soon. Those horror stories don't just come from fundies, btw. Rob
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hiorta Full Member Offline Afterlife Knowledge Member Posts: 102 Scotland Gender:	Ouija Board's Reply #4 - Jan 4^th, 2006 at 12:13am Ouija boards 'work' - BUT - like attracts like!
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Touching Souls Super Member Offline LOVE IS ALL, SHINE YOUR LIGHT THAT OTHERS MAY SEE Posts: 1966 Metaline Falls, WA Gender:	Re: Ouija Board's Reply #5 - Jan 4^th, 2006 at 2:21am Hiorta, you took the words right out of my mouth. LOL Blessings, Mairlyn
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PhoenixRa

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Re: Ouija Board's
Reply #6 - Jan 4^th, 2006 at 2:40am

Hi P.A.,

I would say only in the physical Earth does the opposites attracts thing work, and this is because of the duality nature of physical Earth, where everything is in contrast to everything else...or in other words, relativity.

In the nonphysical dimensions the Pure Law of Like attracts Like only manifests. Here it manifests too, but sometimes opposites attract.

I see this in my astrological work, and in relationship charts, i often see powerful opposite sign indications and same sign indications between planetetary positions of one, to the other.

Polarization.... Because in this dimension, its seems that both Light and Dark are fundamental realities....but in "reality" dark is just a temp. illusion, so there can be no true opposites attract since there are really no opposites.

Bruce talks about the same thing, in talking about how the "true" opposite of Love isn't hate, but unlove, or relates this to other concepts.

He seemed to infer this was a very deep lesson once he finally "got it" and understood it fully. But was hard to grasp?

Rosalind's guides talk about this illusionary law of opposites attract being only in the physical Earth too, and bascially give similar reasons i gave above. Physicallity is ultimately an illusion so says the Elder called Radiant Lady.

I agree have always known this in some manner, it seems, but didn't become conscious of it till later on. It can't be fully explained or understood in a left brain kind of way, since we are dealing with Absolutes here, and the Left brain aspect's job is too perceive the relative and changing reality around us.

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Re: Ouija Board's
Reply #7 - Jan 4^th, 2006 at 2:41am

You ever had a go with one chum?
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I seriously experimented with an (online) ouija board
back in '97, and nothing happened for me.
(The "planchette" was my mouse.)
I tried it daily, over a period of a week. Maybe online
doesn't work?
Or maybe I was too skeptical..?
(I've never directly known anyone who was into stuff like ouija boards in any event, so I'm on my own. All my friends were (and are) either Christians or agnostics, so I can't ask them for help on THIS one without them thinking I was a nutjob.)
In any case, the advice to do it in a group (and with a REAL board!) I gleaned off the 'Net. (And it does make sense, come to think of it...)

B-man

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PhoenixRa

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Re: Ouija Board's
Reply #8 - Jan 4^th, 2006 at 2:56am

I wrote the below on Ouija boards a while ago for Linn's site, but never got any feedback on it... I think it explains it all pretty darn well, but of course i'm a little biased towards me Grin

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I basically agree with CW, Mair, and Alysia about the above...but could it be a little more involved..? Had a couple thoughts about Ouja, relating it to collective thought-form energy and resonant attraction laws...

Its kinda like when we say, the spirit of America, the spirit of the Celts, the spirit of Latino's etc.? What do they mean...they're kind of generalizations, like people descended from strong Celtic blood have a tendency towards high energy, creativity, hard-headedness/combativeness, and psychicness...Or America has a general aura of EXTREMISM (both very material and very spiritual) around it...

But generalizations though they may be, isn't there some average truth to it. I've noticed that a lot of Caucasians with Fire sign risings, tend be be Celtic looking i.e. freckles/light skin, round alpine heads, strong or at least wiry muscular, and like what their Fire rising sign indicates--often FIERY emotionally (even more so then their Sun sign counterparts). I can attest to this, i have a Leo rising and I certainly have more than a bit of tendency towards short-temperedness, though i never stay mad for more than a few minutes (am mostly of scottish descent and look stereotypically "Scottish" reddish beard and all, and i have the whole British Isles thrown in, some German, and some Native American). But, like astrology, these are just innate tendencies, probably ones i was well aware of before i was born, and chose this body for these particular tendencies (this relates to the astro chart too)...

I think this applies to Ouja boards in a way, because they have been around for a while, and where especially prevalent during the spiritualistic era of the late 1800's and early 1900's where people tended to be a little bit sensationalistic, and smitten with the dark and/or occult (hidden) forces.. So, having so many people use the Ouja boards in a certain general manner for so long, magnitizes a certain collective energy to Ouja boards, or eventually forms something like, "the spirit of Ouja"..

So when someone from our day and age, uses an Ouja board, because of the collective thought-form around the Ouja, someone would be more prone to attract ignorant or even blatantly negative energies...but of course the knowledgable and well prepared to could counter act that influence...

Like in certain physics theories, when we call something material, like say..calling an apple an apple, you are really saying a particular pattern of vibrational energy with a different and relative relationship to other consciousnesses, so when someone sees, eats, EXPERIENCES an apple, they're really tapping into a certain consciousness of which the apple is the symbolic representation visually.... So each thing, even "dead" ouja boards have an aura, a certain consciousness around it, and this has its own tendencies to act in a certain way in a particular environment.

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Re: Ouija Board's
Reply #9 - Jan 4^th, 2006 at 11:59am

I don't know, but my hunch is that a spirit who actually plays the role of guide, wouldn't seek to make contact with the person it is working with through an ouija board.

On the other hand, a spirit who is seeking attention, or wants to be a nuisance, will find whatever opening it can.

From the perspective of the spirit World, it might look like a handfull of grain being fed to a flock of pigeons, when somebody tries to say hello through an ouija board. Or perhaps like a flock of vultures going after a scrap of meat that a lion left behind.

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bets

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Re: Ouija Board's
Reply #10 - Jan 5^th, 2006 at 9:12am

Greetings, Spitfire and all,
I tried ouija boards and it didn't make sense for me either.
As an alternative, what about using the creative process --- starting a painting or drawing, as a springboard into the mystical? Has anyone here had experience with that? Some time when there's no deadlines, no interruptions, even no preconceived subject--- or use a subject that has some sort of association with the mystical, for ex., like for Spitfire, impressions of your Gran.
I shared a studio with other painters also interested in mystical contact and we got quite a few surprises from our work, or from the process of focussing/painting, or from the subjects that developed. It proved to be a great gateway that got alot of us going further into the mystical later, without the art studio type of focussed imagination.
( Artwork done commercially doesn't help much, we found--too many overriding concerns and interruptions).

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Touching Souls Super Member Offline LOVE IS ALL, SHINE YOUR LIGHT THAT OTHERS MAY SEE Posts: 1966 Metaline Falls, WA Gender:	Re: Ouija Board's Reply #11 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 11:35am Spitfire, get a ouiji board. You will attract all the lower vibrational spirits that you want, just like you who want revenge. You will get along just fine with them.
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Spitfire

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Reply #12 - Jan 6^th, 2006 at 12:20pm

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Spitfire, get a ouiji board. You will attract all the lower vibrational spirits that you want, just like you who want revenge. You will get along just fine with them. Roll Eyes

Well, im hoping to make a connection with someone who has some true grit about them, you flower power druids, just live in a world of lies, believing everything and questioning nothing, but since your more then happy living with your ignorance, then good for you.

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Re: Ouija Board's
Reply #13 - Jan 7^th, 2006 at 7:05am

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Well, im hoping to make a connection with someone who has some true grit about them, you flower power druids, just live in a world of lies, believing everything and questioning nothing, but since your more then happy living with your ignorance, then good for you.
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Of course, we're all doomed to live (and die) in ignorance, as far as ultimate truth is concerned.
I wish there was some GOOD science regarding
this whole post-mortem existence business.
But, your post brings up a serious problem with this whole afterlife-speculation bit, Spit... one one side we've
got the skeptics who just pooh-pooh everything
and on the other side we've got the "flower-power
druids" (under whose banner you find most Christians as well as New Agers.)
Where are the serious, open-minded researchers to settle the whole question once and for all?
P.S. Interesting new header you've got there... what's up with the dancing fat guy?
Anyway...
Your occasional verbal sparring partner,

B-man

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bets

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Reply #14 - Jan 7^th, 2006 at 8:21am

"Ouija Boards...just wondered if anyone tried them."
I didn't answer that very clearly. I did try them, they did move, but they did not spell anything. Since then I have read various places that they are unreliable because players are unprotected, meaning that when you look for spiritual guidance with a prayer of some sort, those traditions generally know to inform you to start out each session by asking for guidance.

But with ouija boards you just jump in and can pick up the lower influences that might play with you. An icy cold draft is associated with lower spirits and yes, I did feel such an inappropriate, uncaused ici-ness while using an O board.

When I first started experimenting with spiritual realms I used to feel that eery coldness but with spiritual growth and prayer i no longer have those encounters. Would you count them as a mystical experience, even tho of a more negative kind?
??? Bets

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