I am not here to defend Mediumship, perhaps to relate some of my own personal experiences. I practice Mediumship as I am a Psychic Medium. Let me stress that not all Psychics are mediums. Mediums are not fortune tellers either. Yes, one can perhaps read or tune into another's thoughts, but when one is alone and a spirit comes through and visits one thats not picking up discarded energy from a person who once occupied earth , but can you pick up discarded energy?,  , yes you can for its left behind in many places . I have many many personal experiences that I could tell you and again I cant make you or anyone else belive if you yourself do not have experiences such as these  of spirit communication so I can understand why folks want to belive this is all make belive or trickery. Let me relate a recent happening.  I received a phone call from a past client who was wanting to visit me  again and she said she might bring along someone but was not sure but if she did would it be ok.  I replied it would be fine. About two hours before she was due to show up, I got the familar warm spirit feeling come round me, I took notice and saw a large letter J dancing around the room, I tuned in and heard part of a first name, then saw faintly the outline of a young man in spirit , I knew for sure he had dark hair and a round face.  I spoke to this spirit and told him to please come back when my guest  arrived as I knew he was for the guest coming.  My guest arrived and brought a friend with her, I looked at her friend for I felt a strong pull towards her and asked , do you know anyone in spirit who is a male with J ( for first name) and described him to her, yes she said that is why I am here as I felt strongly moved to come here about him. We went back to my office and this young man in spirit was chomping at the bit to speak to her ( he was a good friend of hers who had passed suddenly the previous year), he told her things she did not know nor found out till later on  <<<( not reading her mind thank you. ) I have many many experiences like this to know that we do not die and that they on spirit side are so close its like a breath away from us, we can see them and they can see us. Again, I understand that its hard for folks who have not had these kind of personal experiences to belive or understand Spirit world. linn http://www.spiritlinnusa.com

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Spit man why do you distrust these mediums man?! Has one fake medium offended you in the past!

I have thoroughly researched a wide range of different  "styles" of mediumship both in person and through videos, recordings and literature.  I have trully come accross some absolute bullcrap sittings where at one point some old bat claimed that she was excreting ectoplasm when in reality it was a bloody table-cloth on some fishing wire!  Does this shake my belief in mediumship? not one bit!

I think that this cold-reading bollocks is a false lie that was created by hardcore skeptics to try and shame the mediums into quiting their proffession and as with all haters of the paranormal at the slightest hint of fraud these people will jump on any "misgivings" that they may or in many cases may not find.

Most skeptics fly on the "accuracy" ratings of these mediums.  in Prof Schwartz's and the Scole Experiments the meduims that were tested always scored a rating of 80% accuracy or more.  Schwartz added later in this study that the chances of these folk cold=reading and guessing these answers ar trillions to one.  Frauds spitfire?! I dont think so man!  As with anything on this earth (apart from me lol) nothing can be 100% perfect all of the time I believe the same applies to mediums.  Like you or me, they can have their "off-days" and to a suspicous person this may seem like fraud and that is absolutely justified.

My mum used to often visit a british medium called Mr Gary Dakin, I do not know if he is still using mediumship for a profit as my mum has not seen him for 6 years.  When my mum visited him for the 1st ever time I went with her to the initial reading and a cassette tape was made.  Being very suspicous at the time both me and my mum gave next to NO information to this medium and nobody from our family or friends had passed away recently.
Mr Dakin was able to "get" my dead grandfather spot on, even summarising that he had a slight limp with his left leg! Which was true for the 8 months up until his passing because of a major stroke.
Dakin also nailed information about my dead grandmother at the same tame, again I swear on my wee nieces life that he recieved the information straight away with no guessing whatsoever.  Later on in the reading he also managed to give immaculate portayals of some of my mum's dead cousins and relatives, even discribing a letter which my mum has from my great auntie!

Now I know as everyone else knows on this forum that as in every human profession there are corrupt sheisters who are out to cream as much moolah as possible whilst conning innocent people out of their money, but you need to experience GENUINE clairaudience mediumship that is done 100% free at a spiritualist church.  What you will witness is nothing short of incredible.

Now if he is a fraud Spitfire, and it is a BIG if, How is  he one?

Yes you have a point but he also gave other information to me and my mum that could not of been guess work.  If he was fraudulent then he must of got a PI to follow my mum and my family and research them.  I can honestly say he idnt becuase we arranged to meet him with an hour to spare.  He was able to give very very accurate details that he could not of possibly even attempted to guess at.

Im goin to hunt down the tape (if my bro hasnt rubbed it off) and listen to it very carefully and apply the technique that u said in your last post and will see if it makes sense

I have attended scientific experimental meetings organised by the Scottish Society for Psychical Research (SSPR)... www.sspr.org.uk/

Each member of the voluntary audience is seated randomly. This is all decided and carried out by the SSPR folk.
The Medium for the evening's event is chosen by the SSPR and not announced by name, nor are they ever within sight of the audience.

An occupied seat is randomly pre-chosen by the SSPR folk, is not announced and indicated by gesture.

The person in this seat is the object of the reading.

The Medium cannot know who they are reading for, eliminating 'cold-reading'.

The Medium is then asked to link with the higher side and state what evidence is apparently coming forward for the occupant in the chosen seat.

The recipient responds only by nodding - the SSPR folk verbally informing the Medium only if the response is affirmative or negative. The Medium works 'blind'  throughout.

The information offered - statements, no questions allowed - is usually about 20-25 pieces of information, is recorded along with the responses.

Next, a copy of the statements is photocopied and each person present given a copy and asked to write their own response to the statements.

At the end of these proceedings, an informal show of hands (if time allows) show that only a few of the Mediums statements apply to only a few folk, but some 80 plus % apply to the recipient.

This type of test has been carried out in various countries  among various people at different times.

The number crunching is also carried out by different specialised groups and is coded to preserve the triple-blind element.

Over many years the Mediumistic 'hit' rate is consistently in excess of 80%.

The Society is run under the direction of Professor Archie Roy, Emeritus Professor of Astronomy, Glasgow University.

On the contrary, Spitfire, she absolutely does NOT believe everything.

It will be difficult for you to fully appreciate this until you are much older, but she did not arrive at her conclusions lightly or without experience, often painful. This is better understood by those who have such experience and accordingly are less inclined to judge by appearances.

Profound things pregnant with meaning do not have to be stated academically or otherwise at length. Often they can be stated very simply by those who have enough experience to do this, and appreciated by those who have eyes that see.

Rob

I have had many readings over the years from Various Mediums. 99% of them have Robbed me and gave me Readings which I consider Cold Reading....

However, I have been lucky enough to find One Medium who was The Real Deal and it cost me NOTHING. This Wonderful Woman gave me a free reading while I was attending a Seminar for Direct Voice at My first Seance.

The things I was told left me in no doubt that My Mother,Father and Sister were relaying messages to me. The things that were said were so significant that it could not be dismissed.

Names were given and were all correct. The medium even named my father by his first name when he came through. Lucky Guess??? No way!! She even sang a small song what my father was famous for in the family.

I am off to another seance in March where there have been Spirits materialise. I would love to share this experience with any of you who may be interested when I have witnessed it. I am also attending another one May.

Once you have been to one...You get quite addicted!! It is so fascinating.
Val xxx

Spitfire,

Since I have spent most of my adult life in my nation's military, I have spent most of it with people in the 17- 25 age group. I tend to be defensive on their behalf towards their elders because I have seen what they can do and are doing every single day. However, I have learned that experience does contribute mightily towards wisdom, that mature people don't necessarily come straight out and tell you everything they've been through, and they tend not to waste much of their time on those who refuse to listen. Paying attention and truly listening are two very different things, btw.

As for who had been through what, I hardly think you have been through more than I have, even if we were to stop at when I turned 19 years old. Few have. I stopped describing my non-childhood to others long ago because they often accused me of making it up. Suffice to say that statistically I should be dead or in prison, and that's just for starters. I discern that there are others on this board who could say the same.

While being far from perfect, I have, mostly, learned not to be so rebellious against authority, not to make sweeping assumptions of those I hardly know, and to appreciate the subtlety of the wisdom of my elders. Most of the time, anyway.

Experience doesn't, by itself, make you wise. However, I have yet to see someone who is wise who lacks it. I have never encountered a very young person who is truely wise. Some who were wise for their age, yes, but not wise amoung muture adults.

Marilyn's wisdom is shown by her patience. She refuses to respond to your gross insults to her integrity and sanity. She refuses to try to 'straighten you out' because she readily recognizes that you are not one who listens very well. Me, being a younger fool than she is, am not so sure. You, being an even younger fool, no doubt will prove me wrong.

Rob

Spitfire,

Programmed by the army? What experience do you have in any army to make such an assertion?

Aside from the obvious insult, please explain the factual basis of the following statement you made to Marilyn:

"You believe everything, you would probley put your hand in a fire if someone told you."

Rob

I'm sure Marilyn will let me know if she doesn't want me to engage you on this matter, being the 'big girl' you say she is, not having looked at her pic and failing to be sensitive to a woman about her weight, all-knowing man that you are, knowing all about what to say to and about a woman and so forth. Good choice of words, old boy. But then reckless choices of words seems to be your forte.