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EileenY
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Dec 23rd, 2005 at 1:26pm
 
Have any of you gone to a meduim?  Was it a good or bad experience?  Did you think they had really connected?  Have you been able to find out information on your own going to focus levels?

Thanks for any input.

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Reply #1 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 1:32pm
 
I will be interested in hearing answers to this myself.  I saw an ABC news special once on George Anderson.  I had always been somewhat sceptical of people like John Edwards, who gave vague things like "letter L!"  "the number 3!"

On this special, three celebrity stars were chosen without his knowledge.  According to ABC TV there was no way he could have investigated them or planned anything.  Anyway, he sat across from one, a wreslter whose brother died, and proceeded to tell him specific information as if the brother were right there.  He was doodling mindlessly on a paper as he talked.   He related messages in complete sentences from this dead brother.  Overall, I found it to be amazing.  His readings were "as if" he were holding a conversation.  Not vague impressions from the beyond. 

I kept thinking - this must be a fraud, or he's reading their mind or something.  Then the thought - hmmmmm if its real, this guy is the best of the best.

I'd be interested in other peoples' experiences.

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Reply #2 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 2:56pm
 
There are true mediums and fake ones as there is with everything, human nature being what it is.

A very good medium is Linn at
http://www.spiritlinnusa.com/linns_forum/Index.php

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Reply #3 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 3:07pm
 
I've been fortunate to know many outstanding Mediums for some 30 years and received excellent evidence from those I've had a sitting with.

As in all walks of life, experience and practice are necessary to hone innate abilities, so as these vary, the results vary.

I also 'book' the Mediums to demonstrate at our Association and know what to look for in assessing abilities. Most Mediums are genuine and do deliver verifiable information to so many.

Currently, Gordon Smith, a fellow Glaswegian, is delivering first class, concrete evidence to folk all over the globe, often in their own language not understood by himself.
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Reply #4 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 4:17pm
 
I count four mediums in my life, most 40 years ago, (whoops, now u know I'm old)

anyhoo they were all right on the money..do believe I had inner guidance to go to them. if you want a medium's counsel, then I would suggest that you offer a little prayer to be led to the right one for you, then u can be sure it will happen, to keep your eyes open to the next opportunity, as there are no coincidences to my way of thinking and to my experience. love, alysia
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Reply #5 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 6:07pm
 
99.9% of mediums are hussling skum bags.

i went to see one, and i could pick her to peices, she was merely expanding on info i was giving her.

the best and only medium i have ever seen whos infomation was so accurate it could'nt have come from any other source is gordon smith, and is well work reading his books.
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Reply #6 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 6:18pm
 
The VERITAS Research Program of the Human Energy Systems Laboratory in the Department of Psychology at the University of Arizona.

Look to the left of this web page:

http://veritas.arizona.edu/

From their FAQ page:

Q: Are you guys for real?

A: Yes. Our studies are conducted within a University of Arizona laboratory and have been approved by the University of Arizona Human Subjects Protection Program and an academic advisory board.  Each protocol strictly follows the scientific method and controls for alternative explanations in every possible manner.

Q: Are mediums for real?

A: Our research supports the hypothesis that individuals survive physical death (survival of consciousness) and that certain mediums can receive and convey accurate information from them.  Our research also eliminates several paranormal and non-paranormal explanations for the information mediums convey including fraud, cold-reading, general information, and telepathy.  However, to date, the research also supports other less plausible paranormal hypotheses, such as super-psi (discussed in several essays on our recommended information page). 

Q: I'd like to receive a private reading from a medium. Can you recommend one?

A: The Program cannot recommend specific mediums for readings outside of the laboratory, but a list of mediums who have successfully participated in studies within the Mediumship Communication Research Project and are willing to provide readings for private clients are listed on the Research Mediums link.

I believe (I didn't look again) that their research reveals an 80% accuracy rate for the legitimate mediums tested. My experience is that this is about right.

I would be careful about who you choose. I would also avoid dependency.

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Reply #7 - Dec 23rd, 2005 at 9:26pm
 
Actually, we are all our own mediums. We have all knowledge inside of us.

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Reply #8 - Dec 24th, 2005 at 2:49am
 
I should have mentioned that Mediumship varies enormously in its manifestations.
Gordon is a 'mental' medium, relaying retrospective information, that is currently understood by the sitter.

This is Mediumship as it is generally understood.

There are also several types of physical Mediumship, in which deceased friends and relatives try, with varying success - conditions again - to reproduce something of their former body, e.g. voice, as 'evidence' of their continuing existence.

This type of Mediumship is a wee bit rarer due to the much stricter conditions required for it and is seldom open to inexperienced sitters, because of the need to safeguard the Medium's wellbeing.

The best known example of this type is termed 'Transfiguration', a specialised type of sitting during which  deceased folk are able to (with help from the Higher Realms) reproduce their former facial appearance.
Conditions again determine the quality of the outcome. (I have seen spectacles and moustaches 'appear' to clinch identification, when these were ideal).

'Direct Voice' Mediumship is regarded as the ultimate.
This involves Spirit personnel constructing a temporary 'voice box' which is utilised by deceased folk to speak to their loved ones, replicating tone, accent, language, etc., exactly as they formerly spoke.
Very, very rare, I've not had the pleasure of this experience, nor do I know of such a Medium. working in this way, although I hear of them.

Spiritual Healing is another specialised type of Mediumship, attempting to bring comfort and betterment to those who seek it. Spiritual Healing Mediums often can combine it with 'inspirational speaking', which is another form of 'mental mediumship', in which illumined thought is relayed via the Medium, as a help or to offer guidance to an individual currently in need of an understanding of some aspect of Life. The degree of temporary control varies with the qualities of mind, education and general knowledge of the Medium.

There is also another kind of Mediumship which does not lend itself to public display, but which has a deep, long-term impact.
This kind works in advance of our present time (demonstrating that 'time', as we understand it, does not exist universally, perhaps?)
I know folk who have had such a 'future' sitting who were told of the greatest, unlikeliest, impossible turns of events in their lives - which did in fact, occur in the sequence and way it was stated they would.
The Medium experiences tomorrow as if it were yesterday - while they are working.
They may not know how far ahead they are seeing - in the case I refer to, it was 18 years ahead.

All Mediumship is aimed at offering evidence that Life is deathless and every human individual survives it intact - enhanced in most cases - and retain their individual knowledge, memory, abilities, etc., in their fuller, next chapter of their same lifel

There is much all around us that so many do not have the merest inkling of.
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Reply #9 - Dec 26th, 2005 at 8:24am
 
I don't know if many of you are familiar with Harry Houdini, the famous magician.

He was very close to his mother and at her death he went to great lenght to find a medium that could give him information from his mother. He had a special question that only him and his mother knew which he asked all the known mediums around.

He proved that all of them where fraud.

When he died, he made an agreement with his wife.  That if it was possible to contact her from the other world he would do it. And they had agreed upon a sign to confirm this.

No one ever was able to do this.

"A sucker is born every minutes!" Let's try not to be one!

I'm giving this example because it is, in my view, the starting point for an honest discussion. Let's start with the premisses that almost all of them are fraud and are in it for the money.

That leaves us with a very limited possibility of legitimate mediums (channeled etc...).

I think we can agree that Edgar Cayce was one, there was another one called Ian Borts. The later was taken to court for medical malpractice...which he WON. He was a Cayce type of channel. He called it "The Speakers" with which he exchanged. You could say like an energy exchange...whatever.

There's probably a few others that are well documented.

An honest medium, channel, should accept to be chalenged.

Cayce was, as Borts and as Seth. 

Bruce Moen here said to prove it to YOURSELF. And everyone here knows that he himself had a difficult time to accept his own experiences.

Otherwise we are accepting information with "blind faith".  We HAVE TO QUESTION before considering if the person is legitimate, credible.

We also accept what resonate with US. Why?  Because we are the only one in charge of OUR life, and we have to follow ourself. What resonate within us is what we are to follow and accept. No one else knows what we need better than ourselves. TRUST!

And that means that it's OK to question the ideas of others. Like I said...there's no wrong or right in this. Only your own awareness, your own consciousness...your own freedom.

It's rather peculiar isn't it that so many channellers flowerished after Jane Roberts' death ?  And they are all surfing on the Seth information. Granted, they had a little touch of themselves, but the core is Seth's.

To be well understood here, let me say that I am NOT trying to convince anyone about Seth. I am also NOT saying that all the others are fraud.

But it is healthy to ask legitimate questions.

We expand our awareness through experiences. And thus, ALL sources of information are valuable. Even from a fraud. Because information comes to us from everywhere, casual conversation, books, discussions...everywhere!

We get answers to our questions this way. Some call it synchronicity! 

You can read a medium's transcript and learn something. An explanation that resonate with you, that makes sense to YOU, the answer you were looking for.

We just have to be aware that not all information is to be accepted blindly. 

My two cents!
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Reply #10 - Dec 26th, 2005 at 9:03am
 
I agree and have no experience of the afterlife as yet. As far as OBE's I do believe in them purly because I have done them and gotten some proof so its conencted somehow. Does make you think why can a medium not be spot on with very private stuff al the time, or something that means something, but I have seen some stuff which makes you think twice, mainly from John Edwards.

But I do believe in an afterlife as much as I can without proof, I do think some people can communicate over there, I don't think its just a question of talking, so many external influences, why is communication so hard, thats my question. And Like the Houdini incident, makes you think twice about not believing, I don't honestly think we are meant to be in contact yet for many years, not on a very open scale anyway. not sure where I read it someone gave an example about communication being like a radio frequency, and I spologize to this person It was very late and I can't remember who posted, (must go check) but I loved that, that said it all for me.

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Reply #11 - Dec 26th, 2005 at 11:16am
 
I have never been to a medium, but have been thinking about it just out of curiosity.   There's a quite famous one not far from me (she's on TV all the time), but she just raised her rates so I'm not sure if I can afford it now.  It used to be $80 and now it's $110.  Not sure I want to spend that much money on something I'm not sure I even believe in.
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Reply #12 - Dec 26th, 2005 at 3:26pm
 
The real question is not whether mediums sometimes channel paranormal information from the deceased or about the sitters.   More important is the issue of whether mediums gain this information via ESP or via genuine contact with discarnate spirits.    Two cases favor the ESP interpretation:  (1) the Gordon Davis case; (2) the Phinuit spirit control case.

(1) I've posted on the Gordon Davis case before.   Dr. Sam Soal went to a famous British medium Blanche Cooper to contact his deceased brother.  Instead, an old school buddie, Gordon Davis manifested through her.   Davis seemingly proved his identity by offering intimate details of their school life together, by using characteristic jargon (e.g. "old chap" and "confab"), and by accurately describing his house.  But in fact Davis was alive all the time and knew nothing about his channeled persona which claimed to be dead.   

Why isn't channeling discredited in this way more often?   Well, Soal had been mistakenly told that Davis was dead before he met with the medium.  Blanche Cooper apparently tapped into Soal's belief in Davis's death and used it to reconstruct Davis's persona via ESP.   If she can pull that off, how can any channeling be trusted?  I say that despite the fact that I cling to the belief that some channeling is genuine.  I'm not sure my continuing belief is well founded.

(2) Sometimes the medium's spirit control gives enough information about his past incarnation to make his claims falsifiable.   A famous British medium named Leonore Piper used a discarnate French doctor named Jean Scliville de Phinuit as her spirit control.   Phinuit eventually made enough claims about his earthly life to allow them to be decisively disproven.  Yet Piper apparently channeled deceased loved ones in a very convincing manner to the sitters, especially to investigator Richard Hodgson.    But if Phinuit never existed, why should we believe that Piper really channeled the alleged loved ones, despite the many parnormally accurate details?  It seems that Piper either gleaned this information by ESP or she was victimized by spirit impersonators.

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Reply #13 - Dec 26th, 2005 at 4:45pm
 
Don,

I see what you're saying.  I often think mediums are really just mind readers or are tapping into some type of energy that the deceased leave behind, but aren't really communicating with them in the afterlife.

But I have decided I have enough curiosity about this that I should do a little research myself, so I've made an appointment with a local psychic and I'll report back on what happens.
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Reply #14 - Dec 26th, 2005 at 4:51pm
 
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I see what you're saying.  I often think mediums are really just mind readers or are tapping into some type of energy that the deceased leave behind, but aren't really communicating with them in the afterlife.

But I have decided I have enough curiosity about this that I should do a little research myself, so I've made an appointment with a local psychic and I'll report back on what happens.


try to squeeze in some specific questions, about the person you want to hear from, i think you will find you wont be able to get a word in edge ways.

anyway, good luck you may get to see one of the 0.1% with actual abilitys, and i hope you do.

good luck
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