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On Guides & Helpers
Dec 16th, 2005 at 2:54am
 
I justed posted this on Simpo's Closing Gaps forum here :

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Derestanne and Kyo, I know you guys talk to the guides directly... May I know how do you initiate the process... Thanks... My curiosity is pricking me again Grin


There are different ways this can be done, depending on each individual's personal style, as well as his relationship with his various guides & helpers.

Perhaps the most helpful way to begin a stronger or clearer relationship with ones guides & helpers, is your attitude or perspective of your relationship with them.

Some people have various preconceived ideas about "guides & helpers" which actually get in the way. The most helpful perspective or attitude, as well as the most accurate, is simply that physical incarnation (and in fact all projects of any nature) is always one of a friendly, cooperative group project, one in which there is a positive common goal, like an entire racing team for a formula 1 race.

Whilst there are all levels, types and natures of guides & helpers, (naturally, just as there are all levels, types and natures of people and beings), for most part, think of your guides & helpers as your friends and colleagues, that you as the intraphysical incarnated human, are the physical spokesman or mouthpiece, for your higher self or soul, working together with all your friends, your colleagues, your guides & helpers.

In the terminology of the IAC, "The individual acts as a lucid, minicog within a maximechanism of the multidimensional team". Your life, your goals, your work, is a team effort. Your guides & helpers are the rest of the racing team, while you (the intraphysical human) are the driver, the representative for the entire team effort.

Once a positive, friendly, colleagial "we-are-in-this-together" attitude is firmly established and developed, it becomes much easier to relate and communicate with the guides & helpers, as friends and colleagues.

As opposed to say, a fearful defensive attitude that treats 'guides & helpers' as external entities with their own agendas imposed upon you. If one perceives beings that fit such a description, realize that these are the 'BLIND guides' or intruders, extraphysical or nonphysical beings that intrude upon or even attach to you, in a blind-leading-the-blind unhealthy parasitic relationship. These are *not* your true guides & helpers.

Knowing that many of your guides & helpers, have been your best and closest friends in past lives, will help to ease away fear-based misconceptions. Another useful point to note, is that almost everyone here (that is, people interested in spiritual matters) have themselves served as the role of a guide or helper, sometime in the past... or for some of you, even concurrently right now, either in the intraphysical in some fashion, or extraphysically (due to the multidimensional nature of human souls) perhaps as you sleep, or both.



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For me, if i wanted to know something... i will ask a question... calm myself or enter a meditative state. Sometime there may be some images popping into the mind... sometimes there is a form of 'knowing' which my mind will take a few seconds to translate. But i never get specifc informations of a very detailed kind... . Also... sometimes i get nothing at all  Grin



Reading Hilarion on the Channeling process will make this process much clearer to understand.

At times, with some guides, you may receive a message coming seemingly from an external source (eg. a voice in your head with clear sounding words), while at other times, with other guides, you may receive a message as coming seemingly from yourself (thus making you think you thought it up yourself).

It really doesn't matter how the message is communicated, or even who the source actually is from. Besides, as with most cases in reality, it is often compounded. A message can beging from one level, and as it is translated to the next, it becomes modified, compounded, and from many sources at once.

Indeed, no matter which guide or helper, or intruder, or other extraphysical being, or even some aspect of your own soul or higher self, or soul family, OverSoul or Disc/Disk etc, by the time it reaches your consciousness, it is inevitably *interpreted*by your own consciousness, your mind, and to some extent, inevitably modified.

For instance, a certain idea communicated by a guide to two intraphysical humans or channelers, will be picked up, understood, and expressed slightly differently by the two individuals. Now compound this with entire teams of guides & helpers, with some varying or unique perspectives even amongst them (each individual has many guides & helpers, or teams of, which work both independently as well as in collaboration). But all with the positive intention to assist, to love, to contribute. To the success of the physical incarnation that you are.

So you see, each physical lifetime, each physical person, is so precious. Many people don't realize this, don't appreciate this, until they become extraphysical (ie. they die), and then it is too late.


It is hoped that every physical human may adopt a more positive, collaborative and colleagial attitude with their extraphysical friends and colleagues, ie. their guides & helpers, regardless of religion or philosophy, because life is simply too precious, with too much at stake, with so many individuals to interact positively with, with so much to love, so much to help, so much to contribute and participate in, dreams, hopes and existential achievements, so much to live for.

For more on the relationship between every individual and his entire multidimensional team of guides & helpers (including one's Evolutionary Orientor) and their detailed, much effortful planning of each lifetime in the intermissive period (ie. period between lifetimes), see pages 67 & 68, and pages 77 to 80 :

http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/IAC/index.htm



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Re: On Guides & Helpers
Reply #1 - Dec 16th, 2005 at 5:56am
 
I would really prefer, a phone number or an email address.

As per usual in those type of books, they give quazimoodo ways of doing things.

i wanna leave a peice of paper with a question on my desk, wake up the next day and see my answer. i could imagine talking with a guide quite easily, but they would probley cart me off in a straight jacket.

If the guide really wanted to help you, they would find a way to comunicate on the terms you would believe.







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Reply #2 - Dec 16th, 2005 at 2:29pm
 
Well Spitfire, I disagree with almost everything you say, but I like you a lot nonetheless.

If guides had physical fingers to hold the physical pen to write on the physical paper, they would be able to leave a written message for you.

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Reply #3 - Dec 16th, 2005 at 2:38pm
 
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Well Spitfire, I disagree with almost everything you say, but I like you a lot nonetheless.

If guides had physical fingers to hold the physical pen to write on the physical paper, they would be able to leave a written message for you.

Bob


lol thanks bob

poltergeists can write on walls, smash bulbs etc, ive even seen a ghost sratch messages into someone.

ive seen people possed, ive seen people be "touched" by ghosts.

pen to paper should be easy.

or knocking something off a desk, which i asked them to do, would be enough. Simple Yes/No answers.


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Reply #4 - Dec 16th, 2005 at 3:46pm
 
I like Kyos post.

Regarding messages coming in either clear or unclear, I find that they come both ways. Consider the following:

Yesterday after I got home from work, I meditated for a bit. Afterwards, I was planning to watch a Mash rerun while I ate dinner. I forgot about this as I meditated, but my guidance reminded me by showing me a Mash scene which took place in the operating tent they use. One man, who appeared as a general in one episode, told Hawkeye and Trapper, "this .....ation is boring me."  I typed dots in front of "ation" because I heard both "meditation" and "operation" at the same time.

It might sound harsh to say "boring me," but by now I get my guidance's sense of humor. They sometimes send me a signal to indicate that perhaps I have meditated enough.

On the other hand, occasionally I'll have a hard time making sense out of what they say. Sometimes I'll understand a dialogue that goes on while it's happening, but forget it as soon as the conversation is over.
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Reply #5 - Dec 16th, 2005 at 7:59pm
 
Spitfire,

Poltergeists have a very different energy than guides.  Even benevolent nonphysicals have varying abilities. I've had some who moved things, banged on walls, and so forth to get my attention, and others who are afraid to even come into my apartment because they don't think they have permission until I actually tell them they do.  And their level of lucidity varies considerably. As for guides, they don't take orders. You may ask, and they may or may not respond, depending a lot on your attitude.

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