going off my own experience, is that Blink, or myself even, are not obligated, nor motivated to retrieve anyone by anyone's request because we have no need to offer proof..from what I have picked up on Blink, she operates from PUL to offer to you a little hope. u expressed your gratitude and so let's drop the subject.
As i have said, you believe in "PUL" lets examine what that means, pure "unconditional" love. you believe it? yet your not willing to put it into practice?
are u angry with me? I don't know where you're coming from. you have no reason to take your anger out on me. u seem to think the world owes you proof. nobody owes you anything. I'm just happy about one thing I saw in you earlier, that u said you were grateful. gratefulness is really close to PUL, and that's what this thread is about; PUL. so lets leave off on your little snide put downs, ok? lets keep on topic. you are a member here and I am a member here. makes absolutely no difference how long either of us have been yakking here, but I refuse to take you seriously if you are going to continually put me or anyone else down here. thats not why we are here.
Im not angry with you, im suprised that you were suprised the guy was'nt happy with what you said. it's like this, people were making posts when the tsunami hit, about them saving souls etc, flying around grabbing people, and all you get is a picture of a woman shopping? what woman does'nt like to shop?, somthing so importent requires an equal amount of proof to back it up. if a doctor said he had to chop your legs off, you would want to see some very strong evidence, would you not
ok, enumerate my answers:
1) I make no claims..you make your own assumptions and call them claims
ok, so you dont claim "PUL" exists?, you dont claim theres an afterlife?, you dont claim were spiritual beings? everything you post revolves around your beliefs, and since i and alot of others, and never even had a tiny bit of what you claim, is it not right we should ask you to proove these things?.
wow. what a superb put down for me. essentially, you would rather I just hit the road and not be here? as you say I have no "right" to quote my own self? because I have no proof or person to back me up? oh, please, and may I please have your references also Spitfire? I didn't know they were required. I could go round up my references but I told you I'm not going to be the one to give you any proof of anything.
good luck in trying to get what u need from any other person on this earth. I don't think it works that way. I suggest that reading books or study or meditation may help you learn to be a little more tolerant of others beliefs.
lol, sorry the hit the road part made me laugh. It was not ment as a personal attack against you my friend, it was merely a fact that everyone lives by even myself.
If you went to a church, and the vicar said you were going to hell for practicing the devils art would you believe him? no becuase there words with no basis in fact. if a huge red hand came from the sky and pointed at you....then you would probley take more time and thought over what he is saying.
what are u really saying? trust is implicent in the process. I wish u could experiment with trust more, I don't think u trust yourself, your own abilities to get the proof you need, but I think you have the power inside you to proceed. you seem very strong in your determination, so I wish u well. don't give up! thats all I can say about it.
actually, i trust myself very much, i need a high percent of proof for me to put my faith into anything or anyone. i simply dont believe your imagination can show you the afterlife, i give you the chance to prove me wrong, but your not willing to, so therefore i conclude i must be right. determination is a good quality becuase if you keep swimming long enough you will reach land, or for me, i will reach the truth, unfortunatly no one here seems to want to let me into the life raft, therefore i assume, you can only join the club if you dont question the captains orders. which for me to believe somthing, i must have trust in that captain.
I can tell that you have not read or understood Moen's books regarding the imagination useage. again, I wish u would, otherwise we are on two different wave lengths here and cannot have a productive conversation at all.
ive read all of robert monroes, i used to believe them to, until he said he met someone on earth who is 1000's of years old, and he started meeting umpa lumpa's. Sounds like somthing you could only dream up.
the proof is individualized and highly personal. to lay it out there like it happened is like risking abuse, such as I am getting from you right now, as you have no idea how I feel in your insensitivity towards me. it hurts frankly. but I am getting stronger in my emotional body all the time, so I can respond to you even knowing you're just going to shoot me down again if u get the chance. that strength inside me is my proof, that the path I'm on, from being affiliated here, from reading Monroe and Moen and other explorers here is the right one for me. the peace that comes from such exploration, from getting guidance too, all of it, is my proof..as the way you feel when u get up in the morning is the measure of your progress within spiritual areas. from what I can see from here, you seem to be hurting. I wish I could help. I know what its like to hurt so bad you want to kill yourself. I'm sorry. I think u may have some friends here who can help. I don't know. again, I wish u well on your journey.
Proof, that is only personal means it's often wrong. statistics and patterns, the ability to repeat a process is what adds validity to it. if anyone cant experience the exact same thing as you, then it's probley you making it up for yourself. we all experience pain in our lifes, would i take it away? yes probley. but would i still be the person i am? i dont think so. Sometimes we need our pain.
again im sorry you are taking things so personally, you really need to develope some skin madam, and if you need any help im here, you need me to explain any of my answers i will glad do so, for proof makes the world go round.
you know, as many times as you've said this statement Spitfire, you might do well in a clinical laboratory to begin measurement of abilities of mankind to perceive ESP, or any number of phenonmenon in our world.
I really don't think you will get any kind of proof from this forum that you are looking for. do u have someone on the outside whom you love? that is the best place to start to learn of the power of love to heal you from all hurt. I'm sorry you are so displeased with me. oh well, can't win em all, right?
actually, my eyes lite up when i heard about the afterlife telephone...yet it seems that idea's been scrapped. love (if there is such a thing) is ok, it does'nt heal, revenge does that quite nicely. Im not dis-pleased with you, and yes sometimes you may aggrovate me a little since proof is somthing that does not seem importent to you, but you really dont need to take it so personally, i like you and appreciate your company.
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