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Reply #15 - Dec 18th, 2005 at 3:47pm
 
Hi Lydia-
Doing past life regressions (and occasionally calling up the departed) it seems that people who are suicides have two general qualities. First, if they feel guilty, they go to an unpleasant place that they feel is appropriate. If not, they simply feel relief at escaping. Scond, because they died with a lot of strong emotional attachments, they find themselves back in the same situation all over again in the next life, and they have the opportunity of fixing the problem, rather than abandoning the world.

As an example, a girl complained to me that she was being overworked by her family. In a past life we found that she had been in a family from which she felt she could not escape, and who overworked her so much that she wrapped a sash cord around her neck and hopped out a window. (Awk!) The solution, in this life, was to make different arrangements that took her out of the existing situation, regardless of the opinion of her co-workers,  and allowed her time to work comfortably with her husband, an activitiy she enjoyed.

If you want to work with these characters, Bruce's Book 5 is a good idea. Look for stuck souls caught between wanting to run and hide and feeling guilty because of it. Often I hear about wandering down a lonely path in a cold and unpleasant grey fog. If you have a guide, that might make it easier.

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Reply #16 - Dec 19th, 2005 at 9:54am
 
Either way you look at it, the vast majority of suicides will return return to earth to live out a life with very similar problems and circumstances. You can look at it like a contract with the creator if you like. There are no shortcuts. We all choose our own life's and perfection scheme's.
However, a return to fulfill your 'contractual obligations' is not a punishment. There is nobody residing in judgement over you. Judging from my own personal journey i know this to be the truth.

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Reply #17 - Dec 19th, 2005 at 10:46am
 
Perhaps it is true that we choose our life's general circumstances and that we have a general contract when we come to Earth.  I don't know.

However, if so, I don't think we had any way to understand how our moment by moment existence here would actually play out.  How could we have known if we would be able to have the strength and fortitude to go through with it?  We couldn't.

I still have a hard time understanding, just like some others here, why a soul would be "punished" by finding themselves wandering around in a cold grey fog just because they didn't have the strength to finish the contract.  If it's not punishment then it's an odd ending to a very strange story, isn't it?  

Why wouldn't that soul end up in a nice tea room by the fire having English biscuits and reminiscing with some kind soul about what happened?  Or why wouldn't that soul end up having the time of their life on a heavenly cruise ship with all the other suicides with some counseling "sessions" included on the schedule to figure out what went wrong?

This is all so puzzling to me.

Why a cold grey fog?  Why that image?  It makes me want to light up a cigarette and I don't even smoke anymore.

Who created such a place.  I would imagine that here on earth some people actually like walking in a cold grey fog, just for a change, for some quiet reflection.  It might be soothing in a way if someone had some really frazzled nerves.   Interesting to think about, anyway.

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Reply #18 - Dec 19th, 2005 at 12:49pm
 
Blink,

Interesting questions.  To me, it seems clear.  You experience what you take with you.  If you have enough despair to end your life, and have not had a grueling illness, I think this despair would translate into your consciousness in the next realm.

I don't think this means any suicide would be the same.  But people end their existence when they don't see a way to go on.  They are usually far away from being balanced, and knowing their inner divinity.  Thus, it goes to a darker realm, for many.

Is it possible for a person to take their own life in a calm manner and awaken to bliss in the beyond?  I don't know.  Somehow, the focus, concentration and consciousness would have to overcome much.


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Reply #19 - Dec 19th, 2005 at 8:15pm
 
Hi Blink,

"Why wouldn't that soul end up in a nice tea room by the fire having English biscuits..."

I guess that if a soul leaves the physical and wants that what you (in a nice way) wrote, then the soul will get it. This grey and gloomy, angry and feary etc. surroundings/states comes from the overwhelming domination of imaginery of just those surroundings and occurances. The problem you mentioned of course remains. How to get them out, (if it must be that they get into this). In Michael Newtons second book (I read only this) the idea of guidance is very strong. But even he, when I remember right, mentioned those hellish states, but also that it is a kind of therapy- a hard one for the hard ones, but, it's true, poor people, it makes sad.
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