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EileenY
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Dec 3rd, 2005 at 10:22am
 
I am so new to all of this.  Thanks eveyone for all of your help so far. 

I am having real trouble going into a meditative state.  I keep reading about using the hemi-sync audios.  But, I do not know which one.  Or if there is anything that you follow that seems to work and you feel confortable sharing I would appreciate it.


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Reply #1 - Dec 3rd, 2005 at 11:02am
 
There is always pure meditation.  It's a good skill to learn, as it can be the basis for other things.  Here is how: sit in an upright type chair.  Focus on your breathing, perhaps counting breaths, one to 5 or whatever.  As thoughts come up, observe them while detaching from them.  Do that for 15 minutes per day.

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Reply #2 - Dec 3rd, 2005 at 11:36am
 
Hi Eileen..I find it helps me meditate if I try to figure out why I want to meditate..if theres an objective i can define for myself. do u already know why you want to meditate?

the reason I bring this up, is I used to "try" to meditate and if I wanted something, for instance, peace of mind, a centered feeling, whatever it was...meditation itself as an objective for that didn't work too well.

it u don't know what the objective is, then Mr. S comment is the best approach of all, just observing your thoughts and gently detaching from them..a great disapline.

sometimes just reading produces an altered state for me if I'm resonating with the author and their subject matter. Cheesy
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Reply #3 - Dec 3rd, 2005 at 12:19pm
 
I have found that meditating at the same time everyday or evening helps a lot.

Another tool that helps is to journal. Write your thoughts, whatever they are down in a journal, not typed on the computer. There's something about physically writing that helps one to connect with your inner self. I don't journal like I should, it's very sporadic and I need to get back to it.

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Reply #4 - Dec 3rd, 2005 at 12:58pm
 
Actually one of the most interesting descriptions of a meditative state came from The Betty Book by White. The invisibles told Betty to recall a moment when something caused her to pause...a beautiful sunset..an unexpected gift or kindness...a bay's smile...and that moment when she paused and took in the moment and didn't think was a form of meditation. And they suggested recreating the feeling of that moment as a starting point for meditation work.

So perhaps you've already done a bit of meditation and just didn't know it.
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Reply #5 - Dec 3rd, 2005 at 3:40pm
 
exactly so Lucy, I've heard Bruce mention "returning" to the feeling.

I do this to remember common dreams and/or obes...return to the predominant feeling.

just had to mention, it works better with the remembrance of being loved, or as you say, a baby's smile, those pleasurable memories seem more creative.
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Reply #6 - Dec 3rd, 2005 at 4:40pm
 
Laffin

Now, i too meditate almost always w a purpose in mind.  But, i started w the plain vanilla meditation which i described above.  I think that it is a good way to start.  It's like learning the basics, a preparation for other things to follow.

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Reply #7 - Dec 3rd, 2005 at 4:41pm
 
"sometimes just reading produces an altered state for me if I'm resonating with the author and their subject matter."

Yes! This is called Discursive Meditation. The only problem with it is it's hard to replicate. Who knows if you will resonate with a book you pick up? The exceptions are the truly great (classical) books that you learn something new from every time you read them e.g, Plato's The Republic.

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Reply #8 - Dec 3rd, 2005 at 6:11pm
 
I have several TMI CDs for meditation.  They are helpful.  The first time I put one on, I entered sensory deprivation and a state of diffuse vibration, and was sure I would have an out of body experience.  Other times, I have felt nothing with them.  I have one of their CDs called Transcendence, and the four CD Journeys out of body set.  At some point I'm going to do the Gateway series.

TMI has other CDs called "conentration" and the like, meant to be played in the background while working - haven't tried that yet. 

I'm not sure that hemisync sounds are universal; some may get to different levels of consciousness differently than others. 

Recently, I've contacted a state of awareness that I find hard to label, it is a state of no mind that blends into everything.  While meditating like that, I have begun to state goals and purposes with perfect intent and certitude.  Personal issues as well as general ones.  To my surprise, things have changed in my life as if someone changed "the script" accordingly.

This is the magic that the Shamans and mystics of old knew about, and didn't share much.  This is an area we all can access - but few of us do.  We can banish fear, create our reality and be a part of everything.


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Reply #9 - Dec 3rd, 2005 at 6:36pm
 
I used to listen to Concentration when I paid my bills and it really worked. It also helped my grandson with his OCD. It's also great for ADHD.

(Now I pay my bills online and don't need it because it's so easy) LOL

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Reply #10 - Dec 3rd, 2005 at 8:05pm
 
That's all well and good but the damn things are so expensive!
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Reply #11 - Dec 3rd, 2005 at 8:32pm
 
Well, I've only got tapes and I would buy 4 at a time and get one free which really helped to bring down the price. I can't afford the CD's.

I had all the Metamusic too on tapes but they've come out with more that I'd love to get.

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Reply #12 - Dec 3rd, 2005 at 10:18pm
 
would like to mention certain music helps a meditative state..one such piece which I listen to sooths out my emotional wrinkles so I can write or read better..it's called:
Variations On Pachelbel's Canon
Lifescapes - Classical. I'm sure theres many fine pieces out there, this is just one of the first classical pieces a chicken farmer like me can get into. lol.

theres this old saying that god helps those who help themselves..along came Ernest Holmes and he changed it to say "treat, and move your feet." along came my favorite alien Monroe and DP twists his words to mix it with his religion soup and he says "be thou the eternal probe, and plunder not too badly the earth.."

I like this tag I read once while hanging in the dentist office, I found a treasure..it said:

u may find I’m no different than u, dreams, disappointments and a few crystal clear moments of grace.

sort of makes us embrace our humanity I thought.
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Reply #13 - Dec 3rd, 2005 at 11:32pm
 
There are so many meditation cds on the web.  Try Amazon.com and you'll find lots of guided meditations and music cds.  I personally started out many many years ago with a simple relaxation practice of sitting in front of a single candle and breathing slowly. Being in nature and simply focusing all of your senses on the beauty around you is another very nice simple practice.  Once you find pleasure in one meditation technique you may be inclined to try others and each of them has something different and valuable to offer you. Enjoy!

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Reply #14 - Dec 4th, 2005 at 1:29am
 
I agree Blink that being in nature brings on the best meditative state for me. Just wish I still lived in the forest.

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