Rob_Roy
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Doc,
"Occam's razor (?spelling) is - in brief if there is one explanation that ties multiple findings together, or you can come up with several, the one unifying explanation is usually correct. In conventional medicine it is often true."
The definition I was taught: All other things being equal, the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Yours has more depth. I will adopt it. "I believe that no one can appreciate PUL or our unity with the universe, or our deep connection with each other without going on a spiritual quest, reading, talking, meditating and exploring."
Yes, I was concerned with the idea that the explanation of all this is far from simple. I mean, really, how do you explain all this to a BST candidate who absolutely has no clue, who is caught up in C1 awareness? Where the hell do you start? This is where I challenge the idea that Occam's Razor is of practical utility in these matters. The individual has to perceive the "multiple findings" first before an explanation can be perceived (or received). By then s/he has already passed through what I called the Crucible of Complication and Confusion so the utility of the providing the underlying explanation has been lost. I hope we are not talking past each other here. "That being said, many on this board get caught up in different complex systems of thought, or sayings. The KISS system of "keep it simple, stupid" works for me, but admittedly I have done extensive reading, thinking and meditation in coming up with the current system that I am interested in and using."
I think you may be onto something here. When we remove blocks and have belief system crashes, what's left? What do we have for structure to organize newer experiences? Nothing, really. This is the problem with dumping religion. The individual is left floundering. I am considering that KNOWINGLY adopting a belief system for structure is not necessarily a bad thing, at least at first. I believe, if memory serves, there are some Sufis who teach exactly this, that the Sufism is found in all the major religions and that Islam is their structure. I think they have a point. A belief system structure can also serve as modality for more focused practical application, e.g. Chakras and healing, without losing sight of the 'one explanation that ties multiple findings together.' I would add that an individual should only do this under Guidance. Until a new, agreed upon structure is put forth, all we have are the old belief systems (conventional and unconventional) that we can borrow from to organize and process our new experiences for ourselves. Our experiences remain subjective and there is no prepoderance of the evidence we can present in a meaningful way. My intellectual formation is not a developed as yours. I hope you are getting what I mean here. "I think that modern society places too many perceptual blocks on us. Somehow, in order to be enlightened we have to unlearn what we learned, and empty our cups. This is the lengthy process. Once these perceptual blocks are removed, the simplicity of it all is dazzling."
Yes and no. Profound suffering can hasten this process. I can't understate this.
I have projected my conciousness, my thoughts, and PUL. I can perceive people who have passed, sometimes physically. I have done this without help from expensive tapes or CD's (yes, that was a swipe and a crying out to TMI). However, I lack a structure. As a student I can't present a coherent, objective, internally structured and believable paper on any of this stuff. Correct me please if I'm wrong about anything I say. "I should also add that many have told me that the process of achieving enlightenment should be long and rigorous. Poppycock. While I don't believe in instant karma (great song by the way) or revelation, I do feel that it is all about belief and perceptual blocks. The more open an individual is to removing these blocks, and being open to enlightenment, the quicker it comes. If I can set my thought and intention correctly, and make a connection - something good is going to hapen."
Agreed. But again, a lack of structure or system (a dirty word around here) presents a problem here. Words like "Enlightenment", and others such as "Psychic", "Ghost" et al. are terms from belief systems and carry their own, unwanted baggage. We need our own vocabulary, beyond "Focus" this and that. I think this would help remove perceptual blocks and shed beliefs.
As for 'enlightenment' being a long and rigorous process, I suppose that would depend on the individual.
When my guidance tells me something is going to happen, and it does, I've had a revelation. That's another loaded word we need to replace. I've had several 'revelations.' I've verified enough of them to believe those I can't verify, like New Orleans was "cleansed." Does that make me a prophet? He he. , "Thought has energy, has meaning creates all that is. Words express thought and are powerful in that they reinforce it. Understanding these concepts, while not immediate does not have to take a long time, my friend."
I never said it did. I know this from limited experience.
BTW, by using loaded words verbally, are we expressing our thoughts with the purity of intention that we desire?
Bob
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